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by szasamasa 3y ago
and I guess we all use a lot of responsive websites that are minimally web apps in funtionality, even if they did not offer manifest files for standalone mode I just found out that hover which is a responsive website without mobile apps can
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by szasamasa 3y ago
yes, there are sooo many OS out there linux and windows, then 3x linux derivatives (android, mac, ios) so we have the linux kernel and windows, we still exist (1% open source) browsers have the open source chromium kernel plus safari and fi
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by szasamasa 3y ago
I checked DMA and Apple will be forced to comply (this thing they do is far from it), however, they can prolonge it with this tactic and break all existing web apps for a year on iOS to punch them in the face... however, web apps are the fu
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by szasamasa 3y ago
I dont like the progressive word because you do not need it and I am minimalistic however, at the beginning they tried to force some "progressive" things like responsive design or offline etc. I can understan what they wanted, no
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by szasamasa 3y ago
try hover.com it is a responsive website, they do not have native apps, you can still use it on a phone I just checked you can use it standalone if you want to, I myself choose to use this website from the browser on linux... but I actually
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by szasamasa 3y ago
me too it is just totally possible, there are so many web api-s, you just need to be a good programmer and study a lot you will not really find or use big web apps because 1. most companies have already built their native apps with mobile e
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by szasamasa 3y ago
dma here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE... Apple cannot simply invoke DMA (50) as a free pass. For its arguments to align with the intent of the legislation, here's a
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by szasamasa 3y ago
dma here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE... Apple cannot simply invoke DMA (50) as a free pass. For its arguments to align with the intent of the legislation, here's a
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by szasamasa 3y ago
people who are these children you are describing SHOULD all stay by Safari and never download a browser app... other adults may still want to stay by Safari some people will just use Gecko or Chromium based browsers, as far as I know Chromi
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by szasamasa 3y ago
dma here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE... Apple cannot simply invoke DMA (50) as a free pass. For its arguments to align with the intent of the legislation, here's a
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by szasamasa 3y ago
in a hypothetical spy browser maybe :) not in any of the modern browser engines like Gecko/Firefox just be responsible and use Safari if you want the status quo or use a trusted browser engine like from a big company like Firefox/
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by szasamasa 3y ago
your comment is terrible and a big tell you have no idea of web technology :) there are plenty of web capabilities that have web standards, PWA is not even a thing officially... no such thing as PWA actually, no such thing explicitly as web
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by szasamasa 3y ago
it is not breaking native apps, it is pushing you to update your tech... currently you cannot update some code for your website to work offline on iOS like there is a competition... few companies have great websites/web apps and if a n
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by szasamasa 3y ago
if apple did not care, they would not have crippled web capabilities in the last 10+ years and they would just let chromium/gecko based browsers make use of web standards web apps are the future that may take as much as 90%+ of the 100
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by szasamasa 3y ago
I agree that the main difference is developer skill, not whether an app is native or website. One little advantage for web apps: the app (js code) can be downloaded just in time (not that 99,9999% ever make use of this). If you have a game
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by szasamasa 3y ago
actually, you can do everything with js js web api-s have become so powerful (web animation instead of css) of course you have to know what dom is (and there is cssom as well, modifiable via js) but it took me some time to realize all you n
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by szasamasa 3y ago
you should not generalize cherry picking examples does not mean the web MUST be slow, maybe the web apps were programmed badly... I can write even worse native apps than these web apps and it will not prove anything did you ever try compile
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by szasamasa 3y ago
I found guidelines not rules: "Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize." For me, "kill web apps" is misleading since we have to wait and see how the EU reacts
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by szasamasa 3y ago
but web apps can usually offer the same experiences if programmed well it may be a current situation that some web apps seem inferior, but it is not a necessity plenty of web developers cannot even use js as a programming language or compan
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by szasamasa 3y ago
totally agree in the end, freedom of choice, diversity and innovation would make every service find its optimal incarnation (native or web) in addition, web security is actually so robust via sandboxing that I feel more secure in a top brow
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by szasamasa 3y ago
apparently my former title was too much for this site: "iPissed: Apple is after web capabilities to protect close-to-100B App Store Tax" which was relating to the article (and you can read the title of the original article after c
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by szasamasa 3y ago
is it not chromium, because Chromium browser, Edge, Brave, Opera, Vivaldi, Yandex, Samsung etc... (and Google Chrome) all use the open source chromium engine only safari and firefox did not implement it according to: https://cani
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by szasamasa 3y ago
I think what was meant is lightweight. Of course a web app can be heavyweight or lightweight just as a native app. Still in a sense that smaller companies might publish smaller apps as web apps to have only one codebase justifies a web app
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by szasamasa 3y ago
then why did it get so many comments? you seem to be protecting people from discussing what they want to discuss in addition, I wrote 2 first comments asking people to focus on a deeper conversation and my focus was both in my forcefully ch
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by szasamasa 3y ago
it must be for all websites since a web app is just a website that may or may not implement web capabilities actually no such thing as PWA, there are plenty of web standards but no web standard about PWA the web standard that governs standa
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by szasamasa 3y ago
is this true? I mean they cannot delete Chrome data which web capabilities will actually not work any more? I mean service workers will not, and it is a big one... all they do is caching and you can create an offline working website with th
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by szasamasa 3y ago
the article I posted was from: https://open-web-advocacy.org/ and I wrote a nice article-ish piece myself, trying to get above "I want my walled garden" and "everybody hates pwa" comments you find under
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by szasamasa 3y ago
and they changed my title not just the link was new from open web advocacy, I also posted actually a piece to try to have a more focused and deep conversation so they changed my original title that was actually funny and to the point, marke
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by szasamasa 3y ago
well if you trusted Apple with Safari you can do so why is it such a problem foryou if I trust Google with Chrome on an iPhone or Microsoft or Mozilla? I find this extremely misleading: "the exception is already bad for iPhone security
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by szasamasa 3y ago
It may have to do something with the fact that if you cannot trust Apple not to break web apps like they are planning to do now, companies will not invest in web apps. Also, most companies have native apps already so no need to reproduce th

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