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9y ago
And I disagree with that. Having to decry ever racist that pops up on Twitter with "reason" when they had no intention of debating in good faith in the first place is exhausting. And quite frankly, letting them run wild just means
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9y ago
You're saying that like being bombarded with hate speech is a good thing.
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9y ago
I see plenty of people saying that all speech should be legal, and that sites like Twitter shouldn't police any speech. That would include violent threats.
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9y ago
Here? No. But online? Yes.
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9y ago
But there are flavors of free speech. I, for one, don't believe that violent threats fall under free speech. I don't believe that makes me against free speech.
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9y ago
I see plenty of people making that argument, so I don't think you could really call it a strawman.
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9y ago
I would say the second one does.
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9y ago
Yet, they are. And as for the "I was arrested for saying something," I think that can be pretty disingenuous, given that "something" can range from "All (ethnic group) are a bunch of (ethnic slur)" to violent t
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9y ago
In the case of, say, social media platforms banning violent threats against their other users, is that a bad thing?
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9y ago
Milo is referred to as a Nazi because of his actions and his statements. It has absolutely nothing to do with his race, or his husbands race, and to try and say otherwise is completely missing the point.
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9y ago
But how far does that go? Speech can also be used to suppress others. When Leslie Jones was bombarded with hate speech and racism on Twitter by members of Gamergate and the alt-right, she ended up quitting Twitter. That would qualify as opp
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9y ago
In the cases I listed above, I cannot agree. I think it is perfectly fine to prevent rape threats from being written. I don't believe things like that fall under free speech. And while we're on the subject of preventing speech, re
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9y ago
Your anecdote is not data. I never mentioned anything about a political "side", and you'd be pretty hard pressed to make the claim that the right does not do that.
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9y ago
Oh the other hand what about, Milo pushing his followers to send Leslie Jones racist imagery and slurs on Twitter? Is that an idea, or inciting a mob?
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9y ago
I think we're not even at that point, yet. On Twitter, there are lots of people who receive violent threats, and they're told by Twitter that those are not a violation of the ToS.
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9y ago
I think you'll find a lot of people who will disagree what constitutes "threats or inciting mobs".
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9y ago
"You are operating/arguing from the neutral reality perspective-- that is to say, that "we as a society" exists as a concrete entity that can pass laws. But that's not the case. We are not the government, far from i
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9y ago
I really don't think so. I don't think persons of color not want to be constantly assailed with racism online fall into that category. Women not wanting to be assailed with death and rape threats on line don't fall into that
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9y ago
"From my understanding of social media, it hasn't been workable trying to stop outright racist comments being hurled at those marginalized people" More so that it just hasn't been tried. "so I just can't agree
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9y ago
At the same time, what you're suggesting encourages the constant dumping on marginalized people with those "questions". Constantly being assailed like that takes its toll, and can lead to those people withdrawing from social
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9y ago
Because Uncle Bob isn't speaking to the CXO. He's speaking to those first line developers. And he's saying that those people need to push back, they need to stand up and tell the bosses that what they're doing is unsusta
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9y ago
Because being lax leads to bugs.
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9y ago
I don't see why we shouldn't.
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9y ago
I want both: Better tools and more disciplined programmers. The tools will catch errors, and that's great. But they won't catch all the errors, whereas disciplined programmers will work to minimize the potential of them.
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9y ago
I agree with both, really. Those defects are our fault, and they are there because we aren't careful enough with the code we write. We know about these things, and yet, we don't work to prevent them. We either handwave them away,
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9y ago
I think you don't see much TDD in companies because, when a snag is hit, the first thing out the window is testing.
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9y ago
In the context being discussed, computers are involved and are the ones making the decisions.
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9y ago
Districting is left to the States, so it would have to be a State thing. That said, California does have such a commission for setting districts. Given that most of the state legislators were upset at their results, and that they ended up h
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9y ago
I disagree. We shouldn't encourage those questions from being asked, especially when the only reason they are being asked is to demonstrate someone's bigotry, and spread that bigotry and attempt to make it more mainstream. If you
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9y ago
Watch the Glenn Beck show from the Obama years. He was a master of it.
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