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"You are operating/arguing from the neutral reality perspective-- that is to say, that "we as a society" exists as a concrete entity that can pass laws. But tha
by s73ver_ 9y ago
"You are operating/arguing from the neutral reality perspective-- that is to say, that "we as a society" exists as a concrete entity that can pass laws. But that's not the case. We are not the government, far from it. The government is a collection of people who have power over us."
That we, the people, choose (a least in non-dictatorship countries).
"While inciting a mob to violence can be considered immoral, it is the violence that is the crime... the action.... not the opinion."
Taken to extremes, that means that hiring a hit man, or ordering someone in your cult to kill someone isn't responsible. And yet, as a society, we've said otherwise.
- GauntletWizard 9y agoThis argument is patently false. As soon as you give them the power to censor speech, we stop choosing the government - They choose themselves, by deciding what we can and cannot say, who we can and cannot hear from, who gets to even announce their candidacy. See https://youtu.be/c1HdCIW2Xtk https://youtu.be/c1HdCIW2Xtk - We're not China, but they're not even using their official power to censor, just misusing their official power to look the other way while their unofficial power censors. This is why we need adversarial politics - And why even trolls must be protected speech, because they serve as a canary in the coal mine about what you're not allowed to say.