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Waymo has had a stellar year. 50,000+ rides per week across 3 major cities is nothing to scoff at, their users give overwhelmingly positive reviews. They are now testing their new purpose built robotaxis [1], which are supposed to be cheape
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Alphabet has committed up to $5B to Waymo
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Waymo Is Suing People Who Allegedly Smashed and Slashed Its Robotaxis
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UniGen: Unified Modeling for Generating Autonomous Driving Scenarios
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Except they are not "doing it" as long as it requires driver supervision. They are doing something that's few levels below Waymo. Removing the driver is the whole problem domain, which Waymo has done years ago. There's a
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> There were no interventions, so both of them were doing it completely driverless. Well, no. A Tesla doesn't operate without a driver's supervision, so it can't be driverless. It did that particular drive without inte
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> Sitting in the shotgun seat, comparing the latest FSD vs the latest Waymo, on the same pickup and dropoff in San Francisco, I couldn't tell much difference. Well, except for the fact that one is doing it completely driverless. A
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We agree that Waymo's and Tesla's development stages are wildly different at this point.
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Those NDAs ended a long time ago. Waymo has given close to 2 million rides since then. Everything’s out in the open.
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The changes can be checked additionally by humans, although not always. > We’ve automated most of that process to ensure it’s efficient and scalable. Every time our cars detect changes on the road, they automatically upload the data, wh
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Seems like a massive stretch to insert Tesla into the conversation. Waymo has been building up to this for years in San Francisco. Cruise has been looking for a new CEO for many months. Rivian has been in well known financial trouble. I don
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Waymo hasn’t required an NDA for at least a couple of years now. They only had a waitlist for access, you could share anything you want publicly.
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I know from their announcements that they give freeway rides to employees in Phoenix area. They're also frequently spotted in Bay Area and Austin freeways, but with safety drivers.
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> HD Mapping is great when it's accurate and available. But it requires a ton of data and constant updating, or the car will get "lost," and realistically will never be implemented in general, at best in certain cities.
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This is a ridiculous, apples-to-oranges comparison. You’re comparing fully driverless miles to driver assist miles with humans actively preventing accidents without controlling for any variables.
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I meant airport rides to the terminal at all hours of the day. Waymo is already giving driverless freeway rides to employees in Phoenix, so I don’t agree that it’s far away. It’s definitely a different challenge though.
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They’re testing in DC and giving media rides there. So DC is a candidate too.
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These cars are not meant to be owned. They're part of a fleet. They are driverless and specifically L4 autonomous, which is the best autonomy you can get right now. The vehicles that can operate without any help doesn't exist. Y
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4 year old quote from their former CEO: "It costs as much as a moderately equipped S-class". That's around $150,000.
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Assistance != taking over. It's driverless by definition because... there's no driver in the seat. The car is in control and is responsible for its safety at all times.
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Highly recommend people read how Waymo's fleet response works before throwing out phrases like "remote drivers take over cars": https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/
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Add freeways and airport rides, both of which they are very close to doing, Waymo will become much more of a complete service and a true Uber/Lyft replacement. In a year's time, we could genuinely see them operating at scale in 6-
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Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco
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Surely, it's obvious that Waymo operates in a different safety critical setting? It's a 5000 pound vehicle with pedestrians and other vehicles around it. You can't depend on a network connection to prevent injuries and deaths
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That would be the least safe option due to network latencies involved.
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The downvotes are because your suspicions are entirely wrong. There’s no remote “driving” or “take over”. They wrote a blog post on how it works just a few weeks ago: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-respo
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Allowing Waymo at SFO is a political mess because the airport owned by the city and the city hates robotaxis. Waymo did apply for a permit to operate at SFO, but were denied.
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> Rides have usually 10% mark up over Lyft and Uber. Waymo says they are a premium service like Uber Black because they have nice cars (Jaguar I-Pace), plus the novelty and safety of being driverless. They’re not trying to be competiti
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Waymo Driver 3.5x better at avoiding injuries over 14.8M miles in SF and Phoenix
(twitter.com)
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Agreed. They publish some impressive research on https://waymo.com/research/ , but are very tight-lipped about many things. I've always wanted to know how they maintain maps and what their in-vehicle compute hardwa
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