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predaking
5y ago
Wasn’t sure if this was sarcasm but for anyone thinking this as a serious one, heavy recommendation to Innovators Solution and Innovators Dilemma, which go into why this isn’t the case pretty much ever.
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predaking
5y ago
Awesome. Would you mind answering the question posed above you? I’m definitely curious myself.
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5y ago
"I've been in so many meetings where an engineer, a PM, or a director would say, "oh, compared to the backend, the mobile part should be simple enough... it's just another frontend, right?"." You sold me on the
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5y ago
Fair enough! Thanks. I’ll edit! (or apparently I can't, but I'll note it for the future - feel free to take out my last sentence there if you have editing privileges!)
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5y ago
The timeline of events is pretty evident from DHHs twitter feed + this article. They had the meeting in the morning, and by the afternoon he had mustered up the energy to go back on Twitter to fight with Apple. :) > (There is already so
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predaking
5y ago
You're enacting a no hire rule for 30 people specifically?
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predaking
5y ago
Appreciate you too!
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predaking
5y ago
LOL I take it you’re not a fan of design or marketing by this response? ;) (Just having fun btw and not meaning to insult/offend)
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5y ago
I elaborated on this more in my other response but: “ I never would have thought to not work there because they didn't share my race. That would have been bigoted.” There’s a wealth of factors that go into a choice to work somewhere, a
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5y ago
Actually that’s not at all why I brought it up. There’s a concept called “the pioneer tax” where being the first X of anything means you’re the pioneer. For example, the first female in a team of 3 engineers pays a much lower pioneer ta
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Just a note that I’m astounded that a remark saying “hey, I’ve hired a diverse team, here are some structural things I’ve found that helped - tell me more about your team makeup” is something that garnered any downvotes at all. Are there s
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Guess the experiences here are pretty diverse. I’ve not had a problem hiring or competing with FAANG for excellent+qualified female / non-white talent. What’s the current gender makeup % of your engineering team, if I can ask? As w
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“I don’t see a single standout among the folks leaving” (emphasis mine) Considering that those folks include one of the Rails core contributors, the Head of Design, and the Head of Marketing, either: A) you’re mistaken in your read B) you
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"but employees serve the leadership, not the other way around. " Leadership is all about serving the people you're shepherding. There is a responsibility and a stewardship that comes with wearing the crown, and it's not
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5y ago
So to preface this response a bit...I don't know that for me as a leader, it should or would be about adding fuel to the fire or enraging more people; if I'm DHH, it's not the feelings of Twitter that I'm concerned with
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5y ago
And many other people do see it as such. What are we gaining from pointing out there are many people seeing it in both ways? =)
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predaking
5y ago
You should give "The Alliance" by Reid Hoffman a read. Excellent book - the first half, anyway - and I think it might give you a different perspective (or at least some food for thought).
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predaking
5y ago
Person you're replying to was mentioning customers quitting, not employees (and I have seen a number of people mentioning they've cancelled their Basecamp or Hey subscriptions today).
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predaking
5y ago
FWIW I hire (as mentioned elsewhere in this thread) and I believe it.
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“I’ll bet Basecamp is a better place to work now than it was a week ago” I don’t know, if my week at work concluded with one of the founders going on a blocking spree and leading the Rails community to start discussing disassociating itself
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5y ago
> But still it's absolutely innocent fun. Not if you're one of the injured parties.
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Appreciated, and glad I was able to clarify things for you!
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I share a similar background to yours (employee, leader, founder, diverse org size) and would have agreed with you if it were not for the context of these changes. I too want to ensure people will safe and respected. However: * I don
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For me, here's a common thread going through everything that's happened to Basecamp in the last several days and in laser focus today. Today 1/3rd of the employees left Basecamp. Also today: DHH is back to tweeting and figh
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I’ve worked with people who were passionate about each of those issues (maybe not all at once). None of them encouraged or participated in the dehumanizing of other people and all found that kind of behavior towards others to be abhorrent
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Oh man, 100 thousand percent agreed with this. I'm not sure why this seems to have escaped the notice of a lot of the discussion here. If you suddenly are confronted with the fact that the company you worked for isn't what yo
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I think "couldn't agree to stop bitching about politics on the company dime" is really minimizing the leadership vaccuum that caused this in the first place. As someone who hires I'd have zero issue with a talented perso
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It's pretty common in a situation like this to also carry a no disparagement clause along with the severance. That's also why you see a lot of "today is my last day at Basecamp" with no other "because I disagreed wi
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Yeah! They tweeted at him such because that's what he was doing. Other people just said, "Maybe you should take a break" and got blocked. =) I guess if we're just going to go in a circle confirming that we've both
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I'm guessing it might be that 1/3 of those employees were upset that they found out about the initial policy change via a public facing blog post, possibly felt that the behavior of one of their main leaders was increasingly toxic
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