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by penneallagricia 3y ago
> Europe spies on their allies and enemies just as much as the United States does. "Just as much" is simply false, as the extent and scope of USA espionage is unrivaled in Europe. > I said that spying on other countries isn&
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by penneallagricia 3y ago
> I never said that the US is or isn't a positive net on the world: I said that spying isn't evidence of your point. Because by your definition no country is positive net on the world. Spoken like a true devil's advocate.
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by penneallagricia 3y ago
You keep providing more and more evidence that the US is involved in spying most of its allies. Notice how almost all of these cases are about some 3rd country assisting the US in spying someone else? You are just proving that the US is not
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by penneallagricia 3y ago
The first article is just a claim with no evidence provided. The second is based on some yet unreleased documents that Der Spiegel claims to have reviewed years ago. Still no evidence to be found, only claims.
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by penneallagricia 3y ago
Ok, then why punish whistleblowers so harshly? Countries should consider it a useful public service.
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by penneallagricia 3y ago
> They surely would keep that capability secret. Like the USA itself couldn't? Strongly doubt, the amount of recent leaks we're just discussing proves me right. No nation could have such an espionage system in place without it
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by penneallagricia 3y ago
This isn't about removing the USA from the board, this is about letting the truth out. That thing we claim to base our democracies upon. Your argument boils down to giving up our supposedly better values in order to defeat the "ev
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by penneallagricia 3y ago
This has nothing to do with Trump per se, it's really a bipartisan issue, as the new pentagon leaks just confirmed. I also doubt European countries have the capacity to intercept private calls between top level USA govt officials.
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by penneallagricia 3y ago
As a non-USAer I'm so glad he went beyond domestic spying. He showed the world how the USA spied on many of its supposed allies. The scope of the system of espionage they built is orwellian and just astonishing. If there is one evil fo
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by penneallagricia 3y ago
The real illusion is that everyone has the opportunity to create a job for themselves. Who's going to work in the factories to produce the goods we all need then? It is clear that this system is based on the exploitation of a large wor