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ookblah
1y ago
lol yeah never in a million years installing this as a chrome extension and this is coming as a heavy max user
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ookblah
1y ago
leave it up to HN to once again choose the most black/white this or that extreme positions as if having a 24/7 tutor that isn't perfect is somehow worse than having nothing at all. if it hallucinates you keep digging and cor
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ookblah
1y ago
okay? why not just ban or create a special pricing for the 1% of less of users obviously abusing it. i get that they had to do this, but to frame it as some kind of community benefit is a little disingenuous. we know you're operatin
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ookblah
1y ago
that's not a maker problem, that's a social media modern day problem.
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ookblah
1y ago
lol the fact that they talk about intercom and zendesk when they've had some variation of Fin for quite a while now (which sucks ass btw) says a lot.
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ookblah
1y ago
seriously, the near future is going to be: 1) people who reject it completely for whatever reason. 2) people who use it lazily and produce a lot of garbage (lets be honest, this is probably going to happen a lot which is why maybe group #1
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ookblah
1y ago
and without concrete details about the exact steps you're taking to fail these conversations are heat without light. see how that works? nobody can be bothered to show how these coding llms fall flat on their face apparently with thei
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ookblah
1y ago
i mean at this point i don't really know what to say to comments like these basically calling me a liar lol. i log increases in sustained lines outputted and removed, files touched, features pushed per day. you can argue the level of
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ookblah
1y ago
i mean i get it, but at some point you have to either assume everyone is lying or we are all bots or something. it's probably the same feeling i get when i read someone having trouble and my first thought is like "they aren'
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ookblah
1y ago
this sounds like a cop out, but honestly you will probably see the most vocal on both sides of this here while vast majority are just quietly doing working and doing their stuff (ironic i'm writing this). i feel like some kind of shill
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ookblah
1y ago
i don't really understand this thought process. all technology has it's advantages and drawbacks and we are currently going through the hype and growing pains process. you could just as well argue the internet, phones, tv, cars,
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ookblah
1y ago
yep. and even the sports analogy doesn't fully explain what's going on. if we are talking "true" AGI with potential to replace people wholesale their strategy is telling in that they aren't optimizing for the "
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ookblah
1y ago
the demo is pretty impressive ngl. knowing it's a bot though makes you want to phrase your questions a certain way, so i tried to just pretend like i was talking to an actual support person. i always feel with these bots its like way
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ookblah
1y ago
which is weird to me because i'm using in prod? literally if i care about style and structure i just say, look at these other few files and figure it out and it's fine. if i need to work on something mission critical or new i do
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ookblah
1y ago
honestly my theory is part of it is people who are very caught up in the "craft" part of it and now hate these LLMs for producing shit that pretty much works but isn't like this "perfect specimen" of coding architec
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ookblah
1y ago
this was the same criticism against SO at the time too. people who want to learn and put in the effort will learn even faster with AI (asking, exploring the answers, etc.) and those who use it as a crutch will be left behind as always. we
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ookblah
1y ago
do you let it generate lots of code before review? i find this feeling you describe if i let it run wild and then have to sit there and figure out what it did and slog through every line. the happy medium for me is either giving it very de
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ookblah
1y ago
how about lets stop making AI (i guess LLM here) some monolithic block that applies to every problem we could ever have on this earth? claude might suck at tower of hanoi, but in the end we will just use something better suited to the job.
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ookblah
1y ago
it's really interesting to me because i feel like legacy code is where it actually excels very well. i have a large mental map in my head, so i usually just feed it some vague notion of what i want it do and use existing files as a re
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ookblah
1y ago
there was literally a post a few days ago where someone from cloudflare or fly (can't remember) released a new feature built with AI (albeit heavily supervised) and answered q's along the way about it. it's funny because what
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ookblah
1y ago
nice deflection. i might not share your enthusiasm for mentoring junior devs, but i do it anyway because like you, i agree it's important. the point, though, is at the end of the day even if i didn't do it you have no fucking ri
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ookblah
1y ago
alright, we can agree to disagree because this so obviously touching a chord with you and you're now literally making sweeping assumptions based on things i've never said. maybe i like taking care of my friends kids, volunteering,
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ookblah
1y ago
and why do you think that has to exist solely within the confines of work? not that you said that, but your comments seem to suggest that if you don't like or want to mentor junior devs then you don't value human connections. thu
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ookblah
1y ago
i was trying to frame it as something i'm also grappling with, but i digress poor choice of words. maybe you're responding to the wrong person? because i'm not even disagreeing with you on that. maybe they want both or neit
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ookblah
1y ago
you're making a strawman here. it was never black and white and i never advocated all humans being replaced with machines so we have zero interaction with each other. every technological push has been to automate more and more and ever
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ookblah
1y ago
and just to play devil's advocate maybe some people don't enjoy that? remove the issue of training the next generation for a moment. just like with open vs. closed offices or remote vs in-person, maybe some people have all the hum
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ookblah
1y ago
basically nails every point i've wanted to say but couldn't lol. also in the end the endless posturing gets tired and we go back to getting shit done. either it helps you are it doesn't.
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ookblah
1y ago
AI critics always have to make strawmen arguments about how there has to be a human in the loop to "fix" things when that's never been the argument AI proponents ever make (at least those who deal with it day to day). This w
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ookblah
1y ago
nice. so basically we are so "back" to the icons i saw from my packard bell desktop shitty navigator OS like 30 years ago lol. everything is truly cyclical (also in fashion like what gen-z is wearing) and i'm old enough now
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ookblah
1y ago
its about consistency to me. if you have a lot of time to kill on potential issues then sure. stopped using abnb when i traveled once and the AC was broken/leaking b/c the host thought i wouldn't mind it, then asked if i wo
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