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notspanishflu
9y ago
Sure? The current situation doesn't have anything to do with Pujol family being close to go to jail for corruption? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordi_Pujol
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notspanishflu
9y ago
Basic right for whom? Are you talking basic human right? A random bunch of people right? Who? When defining a right, you must show who is the subject of that right.
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notspanishflu
9y ago
There's a legal way to change the Spanish Constitution. What people can't do is play outside the Law in a Democracy.
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notspanishflu
9y ago
This is completely false. The Spanish Constitution was an agreement between every party, including the Communist Party (PCE). And Spanish people supported the Constitution with their vote on a large scale.
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9y ago
It's hard to try to explain the true here when secessionists are brigading but you aren't serious, really. Since 1977, Catalans had participated in 35 free elections, and in 3 referendums. The Catalans have their own government, a
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9y ago
Yeah, try to get a divorce without respecting the Law.
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9y ago
You have called me troll in another comment but when someone ask for reputable sources your answer is 'google it'.
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9y ago
Catalonia has never been a nation.
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9y ago
"Catalonia had been a nation since the 10th century." Again, if you believe that fantasy is true, is impossible to open your eyes to reality. Please, point to a reputable source.
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9y ago
Those newspaper are way more partial than the secessionist newspapers, because they're surviving thanks to the public money the government of Catalonia, in nationalistic hands, gives them.
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9y ago
After Franco death, the first party to win a free election, and by majority, was a center party (UCD). Every major party wanted indivisibility of Spain, including the PCE or Communist Party of Spain. So please don't try to sell the ter
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9y ago
See? That's the problem. If you truly believe this lie "Catalonia had been a nation since before Spain" then you've decided to close your eyes to History, and there's nothing I can say to change your mind.
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9y ago
But you're the only one asking knowing perfectly well the answer.
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9y ago
It's explicitly forbidden in the (illegal) new law the Parliament of Catalonia is trying to impose.
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What an statement, but that not means it's true.
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Please, don't try to rewrite History. The Spanish Constitution is based in a very broad agreement, from Communists to the Far-Right Wing. Then that agreement (the Constitution) was voted by all the Spanish People and received an immens
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9y ago
It is worse the tension between Catalans.
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9y ago
"The elephant in the room is that the main parties in the Spanish goverment are using this independence process as a smokescreen to hide all their wrongdoings." That's some assumption, considering the main party promoting the
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9y ago
If you can read Spanish, those news are in all newspapers.
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The secessionists tried another fake referendum in November, 9th, 2014. Now it's even more illegal. Edit: to the people downvoting this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_self-determination_ref...
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9y ago
Is not only that. The article 1.2 of the Spanish Constitution clearly states: "The national sovereignty resides in the Spanish people, from whom all the powers of the state emanate." All Spanish people have the right to decide abo
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notspanishflu
9y ago
Then explain me why the same arguments to separate Catalonia from Spain can't be applied to separate Barcelona from Catalonia.
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notspanishflu
9y ago
Done, thank you for the advice.
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9y ago
(I repeat my comment here thanks to tertius advice). The government of Catalonia can hold a referendum following the Law. The problem here is that the government of Catalonia is not following even their own regional laws approved by them, n
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notspanishflu
9y ago
The government of Catalonia can hold a referendum following the Law. The problem here is that the government of Catalonia is not following even their own regional laws approved by them, not to mention the Spanish Constitution. The secession
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notspanishflu
9y ago
When I don't like the DDG results, I use the '!s' bang instead of '!g'. That means more privacy because uses startpage.com
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9y ago
It's better to use the '!s' bang. Is like using '!g' but with more privacy because uses startpage.com
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9y ago
More info: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/popups/ficheprocedure.do?...
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It really grinds my gears when an honest question is downvoted here in HN of all places.
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This is that link without the reference https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NPX09QY/
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