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I like the way this paper puts it: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10676-024-097...
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All that claude said there was that they made people interact with the blue links less, by using AI and stuff. None of that confirmed the claim that they hide the most relevent results past page 3. I guess I have to read the thing myself
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I haven’t paid attention, so I don’t know. I know that Marginalia lets you downrank or exclude sites that use javascript or something like that, but that isn’t what you’re looking for. You might try Mojeek. I’m sorry I know so little about
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As for point one, is that true? I thought ChatGPT and Perplexity had their own indexes.
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Yeah they’re pretty terrible now. Reminds me, this is an interesting article about search engines getting worse and failing, but the author didn’t get into the spam aspect iirc: https://archive.org/details/search-timeli
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I have heard that chatbots aren’t affected by spam as much as Google when you ask them to search, is that true?
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I’m pretty sure Google indexing pages from Anna’s archive would only get metadata, because AA doesn’t have the full text of the books on those pages. I think to get the full text you have to download the torrents, and I don’t think Google w
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They don’t have full text search of document contents though do they? I know Google wouldn’t have this for AA pages either, just curious
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Since you worked on search at Google, I feel like you might be in high demand at one of the smaller search places. For example, there is a meta-search engine called Kagi which is looking for remote workers, and they mostly get results from
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You haven’t provided any reasons for it being bad other than it being childish. Would you mind providing a few reasons why they cause harm?
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Thank you
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I haven’t thought much about it to be honest, thanks.
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For freshness, I wonder how much their news crawls (which I’m pretty sure are weekly) would help. Thanks for the suggestions. Have you worked at all with the Common Crawl?
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Well, I suppose I just like them. There has been once or twice when I thought “This would be so much easier with a GOTO” but unfortunately I have no idea what those situations were, and I don’t think I wrote them down anywhere.
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Ask HN: Who else thinks they should add GOTO statements to Python?
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Ask HN: Are all modern meta-search engines lame?
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Ask HN: Is Common Crawl used exhaustively by any search engine?
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Is this what you are remembering? https://www.searchenginewatch.com/2012/09/06/bing-it-on-bing... I found that by searching with DuckDuckGo (which is Bing) for "prefer bing" "taste test"
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Can you provide a link to these “taste tests”? Personally I could see preferring bing over google just for the UI up until maybe 2018, but back then Google was better too. As for the quality of results, I wasn’t paying attention back then.
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Perfect.
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Yeah, Microsoft tried it by making a product that has (as far as I know) always been smaller and less useful than Google. Do you think it is impossible to make a better product than Google?
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I am completely open to the idea of people trying to coerce search engine operators into shutting down or having a worse product. Essentially it would be the same as what was talked about in the Twitter Files. Are you essentially saying tha
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I see, thank you for explaining. How well does the version that I OCR’d and then put in an html file work for your purposes?
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Either you are saying that malware in images isn’t very common, or you are saying that it is common and you live in a really scary place where you should never buy candy
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Alright. I OCRed it with Tesseract, and then proofread it and fixed things that were broken like links, and then I put it up on github: https://n1xis10t.github.io/search-engine-article/ It is one left aligned column of
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Is this because of the malware risk inherent in images?
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Gotcha. If something like this was happening, it would be a huge story if news broke about it. How would you go about finding proof? Make a search engine and see what happens I suppose? If this is what is happening, why hasn’t anyone brough
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I’m sorry, I’m having a little trouble understanding. Are you saying that you think it is a private company that is paid by governments to sabotage search engines? I like your username by the way. It sounds like the evil version of sun scre
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Fair. Now, I don’t understand why some big company doesn’t see that all the search engines are terrible quality, and then make a better product and steal the market. Sure, google does their anti-competitive things, but I think at this point
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I would love to hear your theories as to why, or your reasoning for why this is normal.
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