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mopsi
4y ago
> I have SHOWN you that the actual POPULATION of Ukraine was majority against NATO, for the very reasons given by everyone else — they didn’t want war with Russia and they chose economic and military ties with Russia over NATO. So why w
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mopsi
4y ago
Let's take one point at a time: > we DO KNOW that Bush was the biggest force behind the push to keep expanding NATO to Russia’s border and get Ukraine and Georgia in This is simply not true. The initiative (or lack of) has always
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mopsi
4y ago
Again, you offer nothing but a barrage of lies. Lets take one lie at a time: > And Putin asking for Russia to get into NATO was rejected. Never happened. According to Putin's top advisor on foreign policy at the time, Putin asked
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4y ago
> So no amount of logic, moral argumentation matter, and links to mainstream sources, words of the very political involved in brokering peace, or polls sampling billions of people are dismissed as "propaganda"? Your long, bit
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4y ago
High population growth is associated with poverty, not prosperity. Economic growth of Eastern Europe pre-1991 and post-1991 tells everything you need to know. Countries that stagnated for 50 years went through a 10x growth in 30 years after
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4y ago
Constitution of the USSR had freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press and many other rights unknown to its population, and severely punished when attempted to exercise those rights. North Korea is a pretty chill place to
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4y ago
> sometimes you do wonder how USSR, with all these mad scientists and engineers, could ever go down Russia 1985–1999: TraumaZone docuseries by Adam Curtis gives a great answert to that.[1] While it may be factually inaccurate at time
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4y ago
> the same ussr that gave national autonomy rights to almost every ethnic group within its borders Yeah... no. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification
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4y ago
At the time of Soviet Union's collapse, 70-80%+ of all housing stock belonged to the government. New independent countries privatized it all as fast as they could for peanuts (could get an apartment for the price of a Sony VCR), becaus
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4y ago
It's pretty interesting that kremlinbots have recently started posting raw HTML links (<a href="...">). It's like they're working off a script and can't be bothered to make even slight changes to account
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4y ago
Go ahead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia Even since the fall of the USSR, Russia was not at war only in 1998 when their economy collapsed in the aftermath of Asian financial crisis and th
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4y ago
> Of course, Russia is responsible for its war crimes, but the US and its allies are the ones who wanted to encircle Russia by expanding NATO eastwards, even after they promised not to. That so-called promise is a lie made up more than
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4y ago
These look pretty fat compared to the likes of Berkshire Hathaway https://berkshirehathaway.com/ and McMaster https://www.mcmaster.com/ and Gov.UK https://www.gov.uk/
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4y ago
> The point of calling it a proxy war by the Kremlin is not to make it seem larger than it, as the largest post-WW2 European war, is. It is to invert the responsibility fot aggression. (Secondarily, it’s to deny Ukrainian agency and mak
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4y ago
> Ukraine is hopelessly outgunned. That hasn't been true since HIMARS arrived last summer. Now there's parity, and Russian war correspondents report that in some sectors Ukraine even exceeds Russian capabilities. In coming mo
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mopsi
4y ago
What difference would a nuclear strike make anymore, several Ukranian cities have already been hit with more TNT equivalent than Hiroshima and Nagasaki and wiped from the earth: https://twitter.com/OstapYarysh/status&#x
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4y ago
There's nothing to negotiate at this point. Either Russia moves its guns and tanks and soldiers out of the whole Ukraine like they retreated from around Kharkiv, or Russia gets defeated on the battlefield. Anything else would leave Ukr
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4y ago
> And their have been hostilities between the two since 2014 when the US formented a revolution there. This is just another conspiracy theory. In 2014, a pro-Russian president of Ukraine backed down from a very favourable trade deal wi
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4y ago
His words were initially taken out of context; he meant that allies stopped pressuring Ukraine into a peace deal after mass graves were uncovered in Bucha. That's the only source for this conspiracy theory. It goes against your whole n
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4y ago
> The prime minister of Israel claims they had a deal worked out, but the Biden administration nixed it. No he doesn't. https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-bennett-walks-back-cl...
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4y ago
> The moment you question the proxy war in Ukraine, you are immediately labelled a Putin apologist. Because the insistence of calling it a proxy war to make the war appear larger than it is comes from Kremlin's PR canon. They can&
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4y ago
> Life for the masses of the people is generally the same no matter who rules them. Dead wrong. Countries that the Soviet Union occupied in WW2 are a great example of that. They were near or at parity with Western Europe in 1930s, but
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4y ago
> Why does the US also want to push NATO East? It does not. NATO membership is the initiative of Eastern European governments out of fear that Russia will invade them if they remain neutral like Ukraine, against hesitancy and skepticis
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4y ago
> This paradox is a street level wisdom from many people who have actual experience with Russians: if you are attacked, you have to attack back fiercely. If you don't, you are not respected (more precisely, you are disrespected and
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> That was never up for a vote. Show me where the UN was asked to vote on whether they condemn NATO for this conflict, or blame NATO or anything of the sort. Exactly. You claim that BILLIONS of people are blaming NATO, yet even Russia
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4y ago
> NATO systematically created the conditions for it This is simply not true. All the Russian propaganda memes of the US forcing Eastern Europe into NATO and so forth that you too rehash are demonstrably false. > The entire rest of
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4y ago
> My point is simply that pointing to UN resolutions against a country doesn’t exactly accomplish as much as you think it does Yes it does. When even closest allies, including the whole Europe, vote against the US, then it's a cle
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4y ago
Only Russia, Syria and North Korea support this narrative, while 141 out of 193 UN members have explicitly called this bullshit and demanded Russia to get the fuck out of Ukraine. It's a simple, yet powerful reminder where Russia stand
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4y ago
> Russia is defending its security against being surrounded by a hostile military alliance led by its geopolitical enemy This is nothing but typical authoritarian fear-mongering about being surrounded and under attack. It's not tr
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4y ago
What missiles, where? As to one-sidedness, murdering innocent people tends to be morally pretty one-sided indeed.
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