monerozcash

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by monerozcash 10mo ago
The big difference is that the oil in UAE is easy to extract and use, the oil in Venezuela isn't.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
Their stated rationale also doesn't have to be their true rationale. For example, it's hard to believe that this is about oil rather than the headlines for Trump.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
>Pretty sure given enough efforts could play for others as well. Not really, given the investment involved in developing the necessary technology in the first place. Only way this could make sense for any third country would be if it was
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
Big difference between helicopters in Caracas and fancy stealth aircraft over Iran. You could shoot down a helicopter with a WW2 AA gun.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
US controls those supplies anyway because nobody else is going to develop the capabilities to profitably extract Venezuelan crude. Not Venezuela, certainly not China or Russia.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
From what I understand from friends who still spend a lot of time in Donetsk because their businesses are there, you might be taken to a basement and shot if you say the wrong thing. It's pretty bad, but sure, if you just go along with
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
This is fundamentally incorrect. A dictator can oppress 90% of the people by just treating 10% of the population well, provided the 90% isn't allowed to heavily arm themselves anyway.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
Trump says a lot of things which aren't remotely credible. WTI price is under $60 and going down. The last thing they need is more crude supply into the market lowering the benchmark price even lower.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
The opposition has been very public in their lobbying for foreign intervention in Venezuela, this is basically what any kind of effective intervention would look like. It seems more than reasonable to assume that they were in fact invited i
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
It's possible, but we'll probably never know. However, the WTI price is under $60 and going down. The last thing any big oil companies need is more crude supply into the market lowering the benchmark price even lower, especially p
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
Sure, and it's silly. There's very little oil in Venezuela that isn't too expensive to extract.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
>Someone should tell Trump that because he’s not been remotely subtle about his thought process. Maybe Trump just believes it'll be a good lie for his target demographic, because it certainly is a lie.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
China is moving away from oil at such a pace that any massive development of first the extraction technologies for Venezuela and then the actual infrastructure would probably take too long to be particularly useful. Venezuela is also simply
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
Hey, sure. I guess you could add EU states and most Latin American countries to that list too. My point all along has been that in the end this probably depends entirely on who you believe about the elections.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
It's also rather telling that nobody in Caracas seems to have really tried to stop the US from doing this, it doesn't take all that much to shoot down at least one helicopter. You'd expect them to have air defenses on high al
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
Well, while comparing Maduro and Hitler is a bit excessive, he has successfully driven out like 8 million people from Venezuela. That's something.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
And if that doesn't work? You could, for example, envision a situation where 10% of the people are well treated and armed by the government. It'd be very hard for an unarmed ill-treated 90% to conduct any kind of uprising if the g
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
Which would happen anyway because only US companies are (maybe) capable of extracting Venezuelan crude at a profit.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
I believe matters of international law are typically decided upon by a randomly selected panel of internet commenters.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
I think you're misreading my original comment, I was merely stating that there will be no meaningful calls for Trump admin to justify themselves because they succeeded in pulling this off without making a mess. >Step out of your Ame
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
I seriously doubt either China or Russia could manage to extract significant quantities of Venezuelan oil at a profit even if the US lifted all sanctions and completely forgot about Venezuela. The costs of getting production set up at are s
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
No doubt, but I'm simply making the point that it doesn't make economic sense for US to go after Venezuelan oil.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
> Which is why if you are going to overrule the laws of another nation, you should have at least some backing from the UN first. Deciding on your own that the the courts are wrong is just international vigilantism. On the other hand, if
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
I mean the real answer to "why" is probably going to be pretty boring considering the nature of this administration. That's not to say that the steelmanned "why" isn't much more interesting than the real "
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
It's really a shame topics like this attract such lazy ideological struggle on HN. Reiterating Trump=bad over and over simply doesn't make for interesting conversation regardless of how true it may be. Even on this particular stor
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
That's not setting any kind of precedent at all.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
> Any judgement on legitimacy is reserved to the Venezuelan people The whole point is that the Venezuelan people have supposedly voted for Edmundo González and not Maduro.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
What part of that do you think requires evidence? The US has been very public about who they consider to have won the previous elections, and the opposition has been very public in their lobbying for foreign intervention in Venezuela.
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
>The rightfully elected leader of a nation can't call for a second nation to invade and bomb their nation. Why not?
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by monerozcash 10mo ago
> If there is a need and money to be made they will find someone with the tech or deep enough pockets to develop it There's no need and there's likely to be no money to be made. The extraction costs will probably be closer to $

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