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minwcnt5
3y ago
Waymo tested for years in sparsely populated desert suburbs before expanding to SF. The main criticism has always been that they were developing at a glacial pace. What alternative path to deployment would you propose?
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minwcnt5
3y ago
Sundar is just a poor fit for a top leadership role in an innovative and growing company. He comes across as a timid people pleaser, not a commander. It always felt like someone else was really in charge, like the company was actually being
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minwcnt5
3y ago
This is not true. The most advanced systems in the industry today like Waymo, Cruise, Baidu, Pony.AI, and Tesla, are all primarily AI.
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minwcnt5
3y ago
No, they have talked about it in interviews. They've repeatedly said they don't have remote drivers. They have "remote assistance" that the car can call to ask questions if it's confused. You can tell when this is h
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minwcnt5
3y ago
I mean a year or two ago plenty of people said the tech was a dead end because it didn't handle rain and fog. They will add snow and ice capability as they expand.
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3y ago
You're describing driving from a human perspective. The delta from no cyclists or pedestrians to 100 cyclists or pedestrians is a lot easier for a computer than a human because it can pay attention to all of them simultaneously and pla
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3y ago
In fact, it could likely be that we end up with the opposite of your adversarial selection case. Studies have shown that dense cities with good public transit (or walkability) have lower DUI arrest rates. That could potentially extend to ev
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3y ago
The whole point of self-driving, and why it's hard, is to handle that 1%. Nobody is saying you shouldn't be thrilled at the product or that it's not worth $200/mo to you. But it's not autonomous driving. It's n
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3y ago
Waymo drives better in San Francisco than I do, and I live here. And it drives an order of magnitude better than I did during my first few months in the city. I have friends who live in the South Bay who are still reluctant to drive when th
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3y ago
I feel like I read this exact comment in 2018. And I am certain I'll read it again in 2028, even as Waymo is operating in dozens of cities and serving millions of trips per week. Because with the Tesla religion, the magical AI rapture
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3y ago
I believe this study was about rider-only miles. The dog incident had a safety driver monitoring.
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3y ago
I think this must happen all the time. As they say, ideas are cheap. It's likely that ALL of them had the seq-to-seq idea cross their mind at some point before it was acted on, so if credit is assigned to whoever said it out loud first
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minwcnt5
3y ago
I wouldn't call SoFi a failed company (yet). They're still at roughly 10B valuation, same as what they IPOed at. That's actually pretty remarkable in this economy for a company that's still in pre-profit growth mode. Ope
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3y ago
> The only difference is that waymo hasn't had a major incident. That and they do higher speed roads, offer service during the daytime, service the airport (in Phoenix), use more direct routes, handle more complex maneuvers, have dr
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3y ago
You wouldn't send it home, you'd send it to park by the side of the street or in a parking lot. You know, the same thing Waymo does between trips.
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3y ago
There's a massive difference between needing a driver every x miles and never. Waymo has served more than 700,000 rides this year. FSD cannot drive intervention free 700,000+ times in a row (on many different routes), I doubt it can ev
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3y ago
They still haven't removed the driver, which Waymo did in 2018 when AI was much less advanced than today. Therefore it's pretty clear there's some fundamental limitation that probably has to do with hardware and/or inabi
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3y ago
Model Y is definitely not a luxury vehicle in the US. I'm not sure about in Canada, but in the US the Model Y AWD only costs about $15k more than a mid-tier AWD Honda CR-V or Toyota RAV 4 trim (I just recently priced out options for ou
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That's just rubbish speculation on your part. All evidence points to FSD having a very marginal effect on Tesla's market cap. The market has already discounted it as nothing more than a driver assist system. Most of Tesla's v
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You're just dreaming. I hate cars, but they aren't going anywhere. Even cities in China that have some of the most convenient and modern public transit in the world are still full of cars. Even if the world cuts car and truck usag
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To some extent that's because conventional tech companies became Google.
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My theory is the Cruise leadership created an expectation that they were ahead of Waymo, based on focusing on SF rather than Phoenix suburbs. Then Waymo rolled into SF with their 5th gen platform and progressed faster than expected, and the
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Dig deeper, dude. I'm not sure if you're serious or being disingenuous, but the fallout over that incident has been in tech news including several HN threads for the past 6+ weeks.
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3y ago
This is completely false. The Cruise vehicle stopped, then started again and dragged the woman under it. The majority of her injuries resulted from the dragging, which is entirely Cruise's fault.
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It was a pretty huge news story actually (in SF). Kyle has a strong penchant for hyperbole.
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If public transit can't be solved in SF, the second densest city in the US, there's no hope for the rest of America outside NYC. On average it takes close to twice as long to get from point A to B in SF using public transit than w
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Greater density in cities too because fewer car owners means less need for parking. And probably fewer people will want to live in suburbs, today owning a car makes the suburbs a little more appealing because you don't have to deal wit
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Are you sure those were Cruise and not Waymo?
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They're deployed in Austin and there have been a lot of complaints there too, although no serious injury accidents as far as I know. Wide fast streets come with their own set of problems. For instance, stopping in the middle of an inte
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3y ago
It should. Waymo appears to tests case similar to this: https://ltad.com/about/waymo-closed-course-facility.html
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