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minwcnt5
3y ago
Waymos do stop between fares. They've gotten grief from people who don't like them parked in front of their house.
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3y ago
It's pure fantasy to think public transit can replace all/most car trips in American cities, even in most of SF. It's not just a matter of "fix service", it's you need to completely rebuild the city with 5-10x
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3y ago
Right now Waymo is operating at a larger scale than Cruise, and driving in more difficult conditions, yet seems to have an order of magnitude fewer problems. The fact there's no way to objectively differentiate the two seems like a reg
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minwcnt5
3y ago
Waymo is not Cruise.
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minwcnt5
3y ago
They have released it to several media outlets. It sounds like SFFD lied, or to be more charitable, the report was based on eyewitness testimony which is notoriously unreliable.
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3y ago
Isn't that exactly what they've done? Forbes, NBC, KRON4, SFStandard, and probably other news orgs have all reviewed the video.
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3y ago
CPUC permit only governs what they can charge money for. The DMV permit controls what they can put on the road.
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3y ago
A bystander reported that a firefighter said the Cruise car lurched forward, if that's true then definitely the Cruise's fault.
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3y ago
People are focusing too much on the CPUC decision. That was only about whether they can charge for rides or not. Even if the CPUC had rejected their application, all these incidents would still have occurred. It's the DMV that is respo
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3y ago
> I would wager they are far from the median human driver, and absolutely nowhere close to the top 10% of human drivers. I think you would likely lose that wager. In the information Waymo has published about their safety methodology, the
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3y ago
You hang in NIMBY circles for sure then.
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3y ago
Waymo carries passengers 24/7, Cruise is night time only except employees.
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3y ago
You might be underestimating the effect of prop 13. There's a large number of older SF residents who aren't techies, but can easily afford to live here because they bought property here 20+ years ago when it was much cheaper and n
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3y ago
Not surprising that Cruise seems to cause an order of magnitude more issues than Waymo. It starts from the top down.
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3y ago
They've been testing this before putting it on public roads for what, 12 years? How much longer do you think they should keep testing it off of public roads beyond when they think they're ready?
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3y ago
No, they wouldn't have already done so, because their current job still exists and it's easier to maintain the status quo. Major structural employment changes don't happen overnight. This will take decades. AVs will decrease
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3y ago
That's not really true. They now do drive the entirety of San Francisco, 24/7, in all weather conditions. I think it's a pretty apples to apples comparison. The one point where I agree is there aren't as many of them as
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3y ago
What's your basis for the conclusion that it's "shit tech"? Have you tried riding in one? I've found it to be an incredible product, like using the iPhone for the first time. There's one lady who's posted
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3y ago
Because the term "self driving" got co-opted by a company that uses it to describe a driver assist feature.
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3y ago
Many of the supposed minor incidents aren't even real. Two recent examples that got a lot of attention were the mass shooting incident where a Cruise allegedly blocked first responders to a mass shooting (it didn't, the police lat
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3y ago
FWIW, Waymo benchmarks their safety against a model of an always attentive driver, so they claim they're not just safer than an average driver, but safer than a very good driver. They mentioned this in their blog post today.
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3y ago
Under this logic, twins would share the same drivers license. :)
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3y ago
There are probably much less risky targets to rob/kidnap than someone who's inside a metal box of cameras that's monitored by remote operators able to dispatch police.
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3y ago
SF despite being dense and having high transit ridership for a US city is still fairly car oriented. If the endpoints of your trip are not near Muni/BART station it's going to take twice as long on transit. And the hills can make
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3y ago
There are hundreds of these driving around SF 24/7 already, and they're highly visible, so I'm not convinced they actually have issues at a higher rate than humans. Any time something unusual happens with them it's almos
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They are. At least Waymo has published details about their closed course testing. Dunno about Cruise.
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One million flights not one million miles of travel. There'd be a lot of dead frequent fliers if it was a death per million miles.
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"I can tell you with confidence they have not really put effort into weather" Ah, the Internet, where people who know absolutely nothing about a topic make bold assertions about it with 100% confidence. https://blog.way
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Why not? It seems to work fine in rain - as evidenced by all the "bomb cyclones" in San Francisco this past rainy season. There are a lot of places they can go that don't have snow.
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3y ago
I would bet on technology being able to handle peak demand better than a non-tech solution. They could pre-position vehicles better, incentivize pooling and transit connections, etc. And just like Ubers they could repurpose vehicles for oth
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