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Maybe buy the equipment and rent it out to the contractors who can't afford their own? This has always seemed like a goldmine industry to me.
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> I hate this dystopia you people envision of living packed like sardines in a can. This is a strawman. I live in a city and am not packed like a sardine in a can. We even have single-family homes in my city (here's one in a decent
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Interesting how you automatically assigned a gender. My wife has worked from home for 4 years and can't wait to get back into an office. I like to think that some people just have different preferences.
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I appreciate the followup. > Al and Tipper Gore were roundly mocked for the record rating system they championed. Which has a direct mirror in the mocking of Republicans who are currently trying to ban books and ideas (CRT) they don'
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If you can't explicitly say it, can you at least describe in what ways it is "less free than, say, the 1990s?" If not, the comment loses value.
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> I am interested in the actual subject of how policies and socioeconomic factors affect crime. Nobody attacked you, no need for that performance. Again, this is article about the prevailing political and media narrative of murder in Dem
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> They didn't pay him to write books in the future. I really don't understand this bizarre "fandom" idea that a writer owes his readers something beyond what they have paid for. Do this day, 12 years after this was wr
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> Confirmation bias tends to manifest as a desire for more in-depth analysis for statements that violate one's expectations, but the rational case here is that the prevailing narrative needs far more in-depth analysis to deserve any
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You've leapt into another argument, ignoring the whole thesis trap you tried to set earlier. Now, it's about "granularity" and "moving out of neighborhoods" and "large exodus from cities" and anything
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> Why would the election, that happened in Nov and was only effective the following year, matter for that year's data? As I mentioned, likely because it was a data point that crossed city, county, and state lines. I can't think
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> Can you explain what the thesis is and how this statement validates that? Sure, it is the first sentence in the "Takeaways" section, at the very top of the article. "The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarmi
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> like using Trump instead of governor or a matrix of policies. And if they used Governor, you might complain that they didn't use Statehouse. And if they used that, you might come up with another reason. My guess is that they used
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But the statement itself essentially proves the thesis of the report.
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> Not to mention, the article is not presented in a way that would do anything other than validate one side's already held belief rather than dig into the topic. This is how you see it. Your first response being "How is this st
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> You need a longitudinal study is my whole point. I agree. I think this report is just meant to provide a counter to the prevailing (accepted?) narrative. Maybe it's meant to inspire/fund the type of study you suggest?
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> I'm not saying that this validates Republicans positions, but it certainly doesn't provide evidence against it. But it does. It shows that Democratic run states (California, New York, Illinois, Washington, etc.) have lower mu
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> But are those upset people actually questioning their position, or defending it? If they aren't questioning their assumptions, then they are engaging on the wrin > Even the basic premise of the article has been essentially stra
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> No person in their right mind would want to go wandering around the south side of Chicago. Tell me you've never been on the Southside of Chicago without saying you've never been on the Southside of Chicago. Nobody ever walks
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> Slippery how even their takeaway section switches from cities to states, and who the states voted for. Not really. Most of us understand the difference between states and cities. They were trying to head off the argument that you ended
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> Without showing the real answers, this article is more about validating people who hold an existing position rather than trying to spread knowledge to, or convince, people holding a neutral or contrary position. I think this is exactly
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> First of all, they vast majority of the article is n=1 where they sampled one year. Wouldn't "n" be number of murders? > Furthermore, the entire analysis is stupid because 2020 was the pandemic year. It was a pandemic
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> If anything, because urban areas have a higher population density, one would expect them to have a higher rate of murder per capita, but shockingly, they don't. I think this is the part that is causing the malfunction. None of the
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> obscures the fact that red states are poorer, less educated, and score lower on most quality of life measures than blue states. Does it obscure that fact? Maybe those facts are the underlying reason for some of the other ills. > Giv
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> people do not choose to murder more because the majority votes red. I'm glad nobody claimed this, because it wouldn't make any sense. Back in reality, do you have any ideas on the variables or just want to throw cold water on
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Sounds like you are trying to justify the results to fit your existing narrative. You immediately assume there is a fault in the data instead of analyzing your own baseline assumptions. The idea that Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc. ha
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The Red State Murder Problem
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Now, to test the ideology, do Miami/Jacksonville/Ft. Worth. All Republican cities in Republican states, all with surging crime. They didn’t take the actions you mentioned, but have the same result. Maybe it’s an opportunity to re-
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> I think what you mean by "travel outside the USA" might be "travel in Europe". I'd bet that you'd get more recognition of the Lakers in, say, China than any of those Premier League teams. You are still for
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>The part that is missing is the personal responsibility. Where is that missing? It is there today. The fact is that society bears the financial burden of someone spending a life in prison (and also the emotional/financial/phys
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So, the current system? The same strategy that's gotten us the high incarceration and crimes rates we have today doesn't seem like a solution to anything. Seems like a straightforward way to changing nothing.
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