> I hate this dystopia you people envision of living packed like sardines in a can. This is a strawman. I live in a city and am not packed like a sardine in a

> I hate this dystopia you people envision of living packed like sardines in a can. This is a strawman. I live in a city and am not packed like a sardine in a can. We even have single-family homes in my city (here's one in a decent school boundary for $340k [1]). Lots of people also live in condos in 3-story walk-ups where they each have a private deck and share a large backyard. This is in Chicago, one of the largest and densest cities in the US. Your view of city living as exclusively high rises and tiny living quarters does not represent reality for the vast majority of city-dwellers. > A lot more people think like me. We didn't work so we could move back into cities and live like broke 25 year olds. The life you're envisioning honestly sounds like it sucks. If not I'm open to hear why, but you'll need to convince most people that it's better, not just that it's greener. According to PEW the breakdown is 14% Rural, 31% Urban, and 55% Suburban [2]. Rural preferences are in the minority, not majority. [1] https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/5019-W-Wilson-Ave-60630/home/13478874 https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/5019-W-Wilson-Ave-60630/ho... [2] https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demogra...