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by jseban 5y ago
Yeah but I'm not responsible for that deadly disease, and I don't control it. It's everywhere all the time. And it's really unclear if me getting vaccinated actually helps anything. It's a completely different thing
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by jseban 5y ago
I just want to know year by year death rate per capita, and average, and standard deviation. That's the only way I can draw the conclusion "is there anything abnormal going on"
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by jseban 5y ago
I looked at it again, it's only comparing to the average, without knowing the standard deviation it doesn't really say much. "2020 was above average" yeah we know that, but was it higher than a "usual" year? No
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by jseban 5y ago
I don't see how that's an accurate comparison at all. It doesn't require people to undergo medical procedures, doesn't violate their right to their own bodies or their basic freedom
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by jseban 5y ago
Yeah except it's not an exceptionally bad disease. For a person who is not in a risk group, it's the same thing as the flu.
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by jseban 5y ago
You are correct, I looked at it again, it's actually using historical data. But I'm still not sure what I'm looking at, overlaying a single year over an average is always going to look "excessive". I want to see pre
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by jseban 5y ago
No I've never heard of anyone doing that, and I have never read anything about it or seen it in the media. The only thing I've ever heard is that elderly people over 70 has the option to take one dose of flu vaccine per year
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by jseban 5y ago
Within two weeks?
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by jseban 5y ago
Everyone I know got really sick from second dose of mRNA, myself included. Probably the people who already had covid in the past and were recovered.
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by jseban 5y ago
And also (4) prevent you from getting sick. Which the mRNA does not, the vaccine itself makes you really sick.
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by jseban 5y ago
> I simply don't understand why one person needs to undergo a medical procedure to enable someone else to experience the safe conditions they want. Me neither, I think it's completely unreasonable.
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by jseban 5y ago
And 1. The recommendation to take the vaccine goes exactly against anything the doctors said pre-covid. Before covid, nobody would recommend you to take a vaccine against something you are not in a risk group for, and double doses and boost
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by jseban 5y ago
I'm saying compared to other years. That link does not compare to other years, it only compared 2020 to itself.
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by jseban 5y ago
It doesn't make any sense to compare it to neighboring countries, you need to compare the same country to previous years. That's the real interesting statistic, and the one that nobody is showing you. Because it's not dramati
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by jseban 5y ago
No they are not. If you can declare a state emergency in the name of public health without quantifying it in any way, and bypassing any forms of debates or elections or votes (one expert said something), that's for sure not a democracy
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by jseban 5y ago
And not just freedom, but more important things such as a functioning society in general with regards to childrens education, babies being born, the economy doing well etc etc. It's not like lockdowns are only affecting some dude'
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by jseban 5y ago
It's always cherry picking to deliberately misinterpret statistics to make the most dramatic headline, it has been during the whole pandemic. Nobody is even trying to make accurate and relevant conclusions with the numbers, quite the o
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by jseban 5y ago
Doesn't say anything, death rates are not constant, it always varies a lot ever year by year. Did 2020 have excessive mortality per capita compared to other years or not? No it didn't. It doesn't matter if you find some anecd
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by jseban 5y ago
What difference does it make, they all get the virus eventually anyway
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by jseban 5y ago
Why would you get vaccinated for something that you're not in a risk group for anyway, it doesn't make any sense. And even double vaccines and boosters. If you did this pre-covid the doctor would have diagnosed you a hypochondric
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by jseban 5y ago
And everyone always forgets those politicians who had to resign after making millions on the mask deals, and pretend that this corruption has nothing to do with why Germany has the mask mandates...
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by jseban 5y ago
That doesn't say anything, it only counts death during one single year: 2020. And concludes that the death rate is excessive during the flu season, compared to not in the flu season. It expects death rate to be constant over the year,
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by jseban 5y ago
People in scandinavia live in warm houses, in continental europe people live in cold and damp houses in the winter. I think that has a big impact on how sick people get
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by jseban 5y ago
Yeah and avoiding looking at the statistics for mortality to see if it's actually higher than usual, which it isn't. I looked at the statistics of mortality for sweden, 2020 was high but well within standard deviation, and there w
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by jseban 5y ago
And are those spikes in deaths at nursing homes not normal? Is that not how things always and usually work? Do people at nursing homes not die mostly in the winter and flu season, since forever? What are the statistics of excess mortality,
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by jseban 5y ago
And what is expected deaths per capita? That relative measure is irrelevant unless you compare it to some kind of normal death rate in the past. Are you expecting deaths per capita to drastically drop and be kept much lower from 2020 and fo
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by jseban 5y ago
Yeah because people who get severe covid are immune compromised, and that means they get are at high risk for severe illness/death from any infection, not just covid. And remember that most people who "die from covid" are o
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by jseban 5y ago
Isn't this exactly what measuring excess mortality is for? But it's not reported anymore since there is none, and media has instead shifted to infection rate. If you were old and had little time left, and had a compromised immune
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by jseban 5y ago
Well, only if your home is really oversized. The "issue" is that retired people are "forced" to move to a home sized for 1/2 people and not stay forever in a home made for 6 people, unless they have savings to pay
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by jseban 5y ago
Yeah but they were still forced to do something that actually makes sense, I mean considering the big picture it's good that an actual family now get to live in that home, that really needs a big home. And the couple downsized to a sui

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