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by jorgemf 9y ago
I know how is the process from the external point of view, but, what is the feedback they submit? Here is where the bias of the hiring process could be (like only considering skills more likely to be in men). > Would the diversity progra
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by jorgemf 9y ago
> Hiring more women then creates competition which would increase their pay and make their jobs more attractive to more women. Women are one of the groups you can hire. Salaries would only increase if you force the companies to have a hi
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by jorgemf 9y ago
I agree with everything. But two points. First you cannot measure productivity per employee, it is incredible complicated. Second the difference is not going to be as big as you would expect to have huge differences in terms of salary (like
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by jorgemf 9y ago
His argument was that given A and B they were choosing B because is a woman, regardless of the skills for the position. Some people here also say the gender diversity programs in google are only for sourcing people, that the hiring process
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by jorgemf 9y ago
> Nobody asked for his opinion, though. I though google was an open company when anyone can raise a concern when they feel like. It is what the CEO said after firing him probing that the company is not that open. He send the manifest to
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by jorgemf 9y ago
> Does this mean the company has a bias towards B, and needs to take special action to search for more A candidates to bring the ratio closer to 40/60? Without more information maths says you probably have a bias. I am assuming your
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50/50 will imply to force people to join even when they don't want to. It works for politics because the number of politics is significative small compared to the total population. But the work force is really a big number and clo
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by jorgemf 9y ago
Probably you missunderstood what neurosexuality mean. It is a mix of philosophy, psychology, social sciences, physics and biology. That is why I think it is very relevant for the topic. I didn't mean to attack you, but I would like to
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by jorgemf 9y ago
lines of code as productivity measure is not the best example. Can you provide a better example? I can drop your example just with this: maybe your 100 working/tested lines produce more money for the company that the ones Joe wrote. Or
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by jorgemf 9y ago
First your comment of missing the trees for the forest didn't add anything to the discussion. 1) If you hire more from group B other company cannot hire them. So you will have imbalance in another place. You don't solve the proble
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by jorgemf 9y ago
Sorry to disagree and with all my respects I find you attacked her when you under valuate her job in the topic compared with other professionals. It is exactly her topic of research and you throw her away.
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by jorgemf 9y ago
I think he was fired because he offended people in the company (with his opinions). If this is the case they should fire everybody because someone is going to be offended by the opinions of others. I found very stupid what google did withou
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by jorgemf 9y ago
> edit: Wanted to add, a PhD of neurosexuality is probably one of the last people I would consult on philosophy, humanism or any kind of larger social issue. It's not exactly her scope. It does help to have an expert on the subject
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by jorgemf 9y ago
> So why aren't the management layers of tech companies composed of mostly women? In competitive environments men are more willing to fight than women, so they are more likely to get the jobs because women are more likely to give up
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by jorgemf 9y ago
> If the main argument is that women do not [by nature of our scientific understanding] have minds tuned to engineering prowess to the extent that men do for whatever cause, then just how does that itself prescribe that we should stop pu
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by jorgemf 9y ago
I want to balance the world and given the people what they deserve (same job = same salary). Try to fix the luck issue (either if you are starving in Africa or your salary at google is lower than the rest). I never said given unqualified pe
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by jorgemf 9y ago
I agree with you. What I am saying is that we should try to make the world more balance and not let it be driven just by luck or discriminatory reasons.
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by jorgemf 9y ago
Throwaway account created one hour ago? So you say that some who is starving if Africa we shouldn't care because he wasn't at the right place at the right moment? If you answer is that it is not the same case where do you put the
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by jorgemf 9y ago
How do you move someone from junior to the next level? For me if someone has a better performance he/she should move to the next level regardless of the time he/she has been a junior. Are seniors consider that because of their per
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by jorgemf 9y ago
Even if those facts are true, Google must have programs to make things fair. For same responsibilities same salary. You can say women are different than men or say they are exactly equals. Whatever is your position for the same job you must
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by jorgemf 9y ago
No I think the reason is that they keep flagging and unflagging the post. And when it is flagged you cannot comment anymore
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by jorgemf 9y ago
Too late. I already took an screen shot of your comment and will post it public tomorrow and they will fire you. (so sad this can be true for some of the people commenting here, I am even scared that my comments in this topic here can have
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by jorgemf 9y ago
I think I should reply to everybody who said the exact same thing with different world telling them that there should be more people like them. Maybe even create a community only for this type of people... or better not because I could be a
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by jorgemf 9y ago
Now I can reply: I apologize because my comment sound like an attack when It wasn't my intention. I just wanted to provide the references and know your opinion. Take your time to check them.
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by jorgemf 9y ago
This is a non-sense to me. My opinion about what a woman would do does not have a value because I am not a woman, but you are talking about men and woman and I should take into account you opinion? I don't think you are both a man and
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by jorgemf 9y ago
oh shit I am going to be fired for this? I said people and I mean people, not girls or boys.
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by jorgemf 9y ago
I think Google could have done things better. First, do not fire the guy the next day the article is in the public. Second, taking time and create a committee to evaluate the situation and decide the actions to take. Third, express in publi
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by jorgemf 9y ago
Hey, from the original document (I have added the references for you): - Openness directed towards feelings and aesthetics rather than ideas. Women generally also have a stronger interest in people rather than things [1], relative to men (a
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I wish there were more people like you. People able to have a better critical reading and don't fall quickly in easy offenses that might not even exists.
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by jorgemf 9y ago
I find it funny he was fired by "promoting gender stereotypes" when what he wants it to evaluate each individual without taking account any stereotype. And then Google has policies for increasing the minority diversity (like helpi

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