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heyjamesknight
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I don't think we're using the term semantic in the same way. I mean "relating to meaning in language."
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I want to apologize for this joke in advance. It had to be done. We could take a page from Trump’s book and call them “Beautiful” LLMs. Then we’d have “Big Beautiful LLMs” or just “BBLs” for short. Surely that wouldn’t cause any confusion w
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There are absolutely reasons that we cannot capture the entirety—or even a proper image—of human cognition in semantic space. Cognition is not purely semantic. It is dynamic, embodied, socially distributed, culturally extended, and consciou
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Text describes semantic space. Not everything maps to semantic space losslessly.
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A toddler dying from cancer is horrible. It's not evil.
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Your brain is still physically continuous and dynamic. ANNs are not, there are distinct frames.
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I'm not a "believer" in IIT. But I think its an incredible idea and taking the time to really understand what Tononi et al are proposing is a mind-expanding experience. It may not explain consciousness but it does make you th
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The cognitive scientist John Vervaeke describes the "4 Ps of Knowing", moving from propositional, up through procedural, perspectival, and participatory. Most of our thought is propositional: we see a thing, know the thing, and mo
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That would be because I linked the wrong article. The original is here, different journal: https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/jo...
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Close! Emergence/emanation is particular to Neoplatonism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplatonism
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Better let Nature know their Peer Review committee screwed up then!
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You're welcome to read the paper. Tonini's work is well-known within CogSci and its not quackery by any stretch.
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Agreed, I was just commenting that one can measure "penciliness". I see a lot of pedantic arguments against measurement by proxy, as if every single measurement we do wasn't by proxy.
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That's not true, the authors of IIT [1] propose a number of experiments that would support or deny the underlying theory. To my knowledge, those experiments haven't shown much support. But there are aspects of it that are absolute
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I don't think its a question of whether there is an essential reality or not, but rather whether we have access to essential reality. Donald Hoffman makes a strong game theoretical argument for how natural selection chooses effective
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Because our entire perception system functions as a mediation between the teleological affordances an object presents at a given level of organization/analysis and how those affordances relate to our motivational system's current
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Welp, that does it. Pack it up, Cognitive Scientists: we've solved the hard problem of consciousness right here on HN. What you're describing is what's been proposed by Giulio Tonini as "Integrated Information Theory&quo
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The mind is not a material phenomenon, in the same way that a video game is not a computational one. The emergent experience exists at the level into which it emerges. It's constructed at a lower level of organization, but not decompos
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You can measure "pencilness" a number of ways depending on how you operationalize the term. It could be a measure of how well it achieves the function of a pencil, how well it matches the collective understanding of the form of a
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All of those examples are emergence "into". The snowflake emerges into the mathematical patterns emanating downward. The termite cathedral emerges into the architectural context of the observer. Without emanating structure, there
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Because that's the same as giving up and saying "we don't understand." What is mind emerging into ? When a video game experience emerges from the combination of processing, display, sound, and controller input, it eme
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Something, something, anecdotes and data. I've had three of them. All perfect. So I'm at least thrice as right as you are on the topic, I guess. But in all seriousness: I don't doubt that there are Teslas out there with issue
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Which is fine, but that's a totally different argument than the idea that they're "bad cars". Like I said, Elon's viability as leader is absolutely up for question. But that has nothing to do with the quality of the
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Unless your commute is long, charging overnight on a standard outlet is more than sufficient. We have two EVs—one for my daily ~50 mile round trip commute while the other stays in the neighborhood most the time—and we never have to charge o
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My wife and I did this. Seemed like an elegant solution to the problem.
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I think you mean the typical cherry picking that institutions and organizations do, both religious and secular.
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A real test here would be to give it to my friend from Mendoza, Argentina. I'm bilingual and still can't understand him. I'm not even sure half the things he says are actual words.
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Citation needed. People connect through story. The stories that connect the most people over the greatest timescales have all been myths—or developed into them over generations. Augustus Caesar commissioned the Aeneid for this exact reason:
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This is wild conjecture based on performance in a berry-picking game.
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In the short-term, yes. But over a lifetime, medication has massive health downsides, and fewer and fewer psychological upsides over time.
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