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freshbreakfast
14y ago
Yeah I, would agree they're modern versions of crowd patronage. I do think though that in the future, musicians will have a more fleshed out platform catered to their needs. With their music, community, CRM admin, etc.
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I agree with nancyhua. I sort of use "patronage" as short hand, don't let it confuse you. I think to the fan, they must not feel like it's pure patronage... they should get some sort of concrete interaction or recognition back from artist
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This is just my opinion, but I feel copyright will be less enforceable in the future when it doesn't actually generate revenue. I have to think over time, artists will not want to gate their content, and provide distributors free access to
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awesome, i've never heard of Mike Masnick (fail!), but he sounds like a smart man ;-). Thanks for the heads up, I'll probably be digging into his stuff pretty soon.
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hey freshhawk. first of all, I'm totally jealous of your handle. Second, I would say I'm not in any of those camps I define. I'm in the "crowd patronage" camp ;-). I think music will always have hits and superstars, whether the gatekeeper
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I personally hate anything that "feels" like charity to the artist, I don't think that's sustainable. Even though I call this theoretical model "crowd patronage", I feel it would only work if the fan "feels" like he's getting more than som
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I personally define "music industry" as whatever generates revenue for artists and their managers. I do agree that there's a lot of old growth in the current ecosystem of the music industry that's inevitably going to die off.
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Hey guys, I wrote this thing, and ready to discuss it here on HN. Come at me with your best shot!
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If, against all odds, this scheme works and becomes acceptable, it can't last too long before competitors offering different kinds of service/values copy the same scheme. At which point, it becomes a real estate grab, and before you know i
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The first adjective that pg used was "determined". It's also essentially saying the same thing as his last sentence. I'm guessing that's not an accident.
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The latest post from Mark Mulligan, a former research director from Forrester and musician, who I personally think is one of the smarter pundits on the music/tech industry. Definitely belongs on HN.
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MySpace is Back, And This Time They’re Serious
(musicindustryblog.wordpress.com)
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viewcount would seem to me to be a tried and true motivator, especially for creators, no?
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If the Segway was about a thousand bucks, way smaller, and more thrilling to ride... well, I'd buy it.
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Hey Joey! I love earbits! I caught some of your interview with Ian Rogers on youtube, so it's really cool you found this! So yeah, I didn't want to get too specific with what not to do, because I feel like things change so quickly on faceb
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That's a good point, I know a few tricks to increase or capture likes. Actually my company's FB platform, Tracksby, has a good way to capture likes. I focused so much on engaging the current audience that I completely forgot about some ne
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Hey guys this "guide" is sort of a work in progress for me, would appreciate any other suggestions you guys have in this here Hacker News comments. Also, I'm always looking for good examples of facebook pages done right, music or other.
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Freshbreakfast here, my real name is Bryan Kim and I wrote this post. I want to thank my fellow hacker news'ers for the mind-blowing discussion in this here comments. Like literally mind-blowing stuff, I'm still Q-tipping the grey matter
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:) Thanks man, means a lot coming from you. And great great post, really a privilege getting to peer into your thought process during a moment we nominally shared.
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Dalton, I don't know if you remember this, but I used to a major imeem fanboy, wrote a personal blog (freshbreakfast dot com) to count the ways I loved imeem, the links for which I spammed to team/all/dalton/steve/gina/matt@imeem.com. Anyho
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I'm also big on performance and interpretation of classical music. I've compromised my quality standards on every genre of music except classical music, which I still revert back to my CD collection. Sadly, I feel classical's aging audien
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Agreed. The catalogue thing is annoying. But I do remember it took a while for iTunes to have a complete catalogue as well. I feel like eventually though that problem should self-correct for subscription based model over time, as it incre
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Hey I wrote the blog post, and I'm firmly in bucket 2. I frikkin love music. If it was up to me, we'd all go back to vinyl bumping through wide cones set in heavy oak. I just don't think we define the market because we're so in the minor
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The "music industry" is whatever the market and enabling technology defines it to be. Before the 1950's, selling sheet music defined the "music industry" for decades. Before that, patronage by European royalty defined the "music industry"
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The passive/active experience angle is an interesting way to look at it. I wrote the blog post, but obviously I'm a music lover who usually consumes in a very proactive way, always looking for new music. But I still think the passive expe
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On early adopter planet? Which you can say is the "3-5 years in the future" planet? ;-)
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According to sales though, digital downloads of music is still seeing year-over-year growth. It's crutching the record industry right now. But I agree with your overall sentiment, I think sales will soon catch up (or down?) to what is goi
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I think your skepticism is correct if you go strictly follow logic along the "instagram for video" metaphor. Which is natural, everyone wants to make that corollary right now given Instagram's recent successes. But I wonder if the metaphor