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> So, if we attempt to create a Frankenstein language that combine concepts of bash and C, which set of programmers do we inconvenience with the noisier syntax? I won't speak for others, but I can make that choice for myself, and I&
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> I have implemented language VMs and garbage collectors where I needed to work at the level of raw bytes and manual memory management Fair enough, and I guess I'm forced to agree a little. However, if the one true language alre
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> I can't point to a single language that I would prefer for all of the different kinds of programs I've written. I never liked the "pick the right tool for job" cliche in the context of programming languages. I'
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Interesting. I'm not familiar with "pic", but I'll check it out. I've never seen a manpage with that in it. A terminal with graphics in it would be nice too. Maybe if Tek4014 (and the Tek emulation in xterm) had
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Yeah, I'm guilty of being pretty cynical/pessimistic from time to time too. However, despite all the nastiness and privacy invading features of the technical world, a lot of things really have just gotten better over time. Maybe
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> eyes are deep into both the design and the construction of the brain. Sooo, super tough to have a better intake channel. Maybe the optical processing parts of the brain are where they'll inject a lot of the new interfaces. Have y
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Stross, yes. Not sure if it was book 3 of a series or something. I didn't read much else of his.
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I agree.
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If you like science fiction at all, give Accelerando a read. Of course it's just a story, but it feels like a possible real future (at least the first section). In it, there is definitely a place for people who reject integrating wit
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Tough to say what counts as large, but there are lots of articles like this one about avocado growing towns hiring their own militia because the federal government simply isn't relevant in the area: https://www.nytimes.
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True Scotsman have a very low mortality rate. To be fair, I think qualifying as a tourist is much less subjective than being called "good". As non-native to Mexico, I really am more interested in the probability "being murde
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SVG could work (if you can stomach XML). The great thing about standards is there are so many to choose from.
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How about 3 fonts (serif, sans, and fixed) and color instead of monochrome? You're too quick to compromise :-) Vector graphics would be adequate and could discourage huge binary dumps in the code, but you know someone would try to jam
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I should check out org-mode. It's been more than 25 years since I used emacs with any regularity.
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> Theoretically there's a process for requesting new software and getting it approved, but actually pushing it through requires getting one of my program architects to care enough to file the request I worked for a much smaller gove
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I think one of the most amazing parts of Racket, and one of the reasons someone should try it out if they haven't, is that the source code and evaluator support images and not just text. The following link shows one aspect of this: h
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> Speak for yourself, and find another platform for arguing about Python and Nazis. You're the jackass who brought Nazi's into a tech conversation, and you're also the one who brought Python into the conversation. As for
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> I keep finding I need to repeat myself Communicating with people is hard, especially when you only really want to repeat yourself and not try to understand what anyone else is saying. I get your point - fork is slow. Now what do you
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First you say I'm a bash apologist and then a Nazi apologist. Where is a philosophical Python criticizer supposed to go in order to get a fair shake. You can do better than ad hominem rebuttals.
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Ugh, you edited a bunch while I was replying again. I can't keep up. My only point had been that Python is also slow.
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> Nope, Python's Tkinter canvas calls into TCL/Tk directly. It doesn't run it as a separate process. There is no comparison: Another false equivalence. Python's Tkinter converts all calls into strings which are parsed
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Heh, you edited significantly again while I was replying. It's tough to keep the conversation coherent when you do that. Thank you for the link. I'll give it a look. > While you're farting bubbles in the bathtub about in
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> Even Michael Godwin says there are times when it's acceptable to compare shitheads to Nazis I wonder if we were in our early 20s during Nazi Germany if either of us would have the wherewithal to reject being a Nazi. I suspect we&
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> The Nazis and the Anti-Nazi protesters were not of the same order of magnitude of evil in Charlottesville Are you intentionally invoking Godwin's law because you know your argument is untenable? > PyPy is a thing, and it works
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Ahh, you edited significantly while I was replying. Here goes to your current message: > [...] you ask "Why would I ever want to calculate a cosine in a bash script?" I wouldn't ask that. This kind of argument strategy i
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> Thanks for illustrating how some people still completely miss the point. You're being feisty, whatever. > We are discussing the overhead of forking processes to do math, which Python doesn't have to do. Python uses dynamic
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> the coding style used seems to lend strongly towards not thinking an error is possible So does every tutorial which doesn't check the return from printf or check for errors from cout. Did you notice that the parent and child are
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Promoting Python over shell scripts in the name of efficiency is silly. It's like saying you should prefer turtles instead of snails.
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I wouldn't criticize anyone for posting code snippets for educational purposes without confounding the learner with all of the error checking. Pedagogy vs pedantry.
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> Having run up against limits of the Python standard library several times in years of writing production software in it and not just learning it, I find the batteries-not-includes-but-easy-to-install approach better on the whole. Obvio
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