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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
"It's fine if we mistreat this subgroup, they should be grateful for what we let them have" is a shared theme between the two. And as noted elsewhere in the conversation, American companies are benefiting from actual concen
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Say Nazi shit, get compared to Nazis. Per Godwin himself! Call it his second law. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/19/godwins-la...
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
> The US also rounded up racial undesirables into camps and used them for labor This was also bad, yes. > there's a reason that Roosevelt is looked upon more fondly than goddamn Hitler Sure, but "less bad" isn't th
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> I'm not an economist or policy maker so why does it matter what I think?' Do you vote?
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> Nowhere did I say I have to agree with their conclusions… So your functional way to effectively assess good/bad tax is ... not so functional.
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China is where all our billionaire companies have outsourced their factories to, to take advantage of those conditions for profit! They are an integral part of the story. (We're not above doing a little bit of it ourselves, as a trea
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
> But modern factory conditions are nowhere near what that regime did. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53481253 > Reports by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) and the US Congress, among others, h
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
Again, you asserted: > There definitely are ways to look at each tax and determine its worth, in a non-partisan way. You then asserted those are: > Academic panels, economists writing papers on impacts of various policies like rent co
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
> equate concentration camp contidions to working in a factory Oh no, not accurately stating history! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rul... > The use of slave and forced labour in Nazi
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
> Academic panels, economists writing papers on impacts of various policies like rent control, monetary policy, and yes, taxes. We have those, and they disagree almost as much as the general public does. Economists get plenty partisan; t
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
Go on. What are these practical "ways to look at each tax and determine its worth, in a non-partisan way" options?
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
> If your local economy pays you $0.001/day instead, then congratulations, you now make 10x more than everyone else. Sure. The kapos at concentration camps got better food and treatment, too. That doesn't make it a fair, happy,
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
Slavery would still be slavery if you got paid $0.01/day, so there's clearly some kind of threshold we all have for "good, fairly compensated work".
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> What exactly is stopping them from doing that now? I think the rise of China demonstrates they're certainly trying.
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
> What DOGE did is not one I'd consider proper review… This illustrates very well how difficult it will be to agree on good/bad tax. > There definitely are ways to look at each tax and determine its worth, in a non-partisan
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
Yes, I agree, at least in part. We are tweaking a multi-trillion dollar system impacting hundreds of millions of people directly and billions indirectly. The impacts of those tweaks take years or decades to (imperfectly!) assess. Many of th
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Arbeit macht frei!
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
> Quite the opposite, it's almost always two very happy parties engaging in an exchange that each of them finds advantageous. When I buy an iPhone from Apple, I suspect quite a few folks in the mines, factories, shipping, and retail
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I, too, would win the marathon if you put me at the last mile marker while everyone else starts at the beginning. Is that skill?
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
You're avoiding the points. "Look at the pros and cons of each one" is an enormous handwave; I've provided very clear evidence of our inability to do that successfully in a very topical and concrete case.
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
I mean, I'd also argue that the definition of a "bad tax" is notoriously difficult to agree on. For example: https://x.com/NEWSMAX/status/1937470443168182386 > A government agency spending $300
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We have the current inefficient, corrupt, and incompetent government in the US because the anti-tax wealthy class threw an all-out tantrum over even the idea of paying a tiny bit more tax.
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Yes, absolutely. There's a cost to perfection. In our computing world, every extra nine of reliability is more expensive than the last, often with diminishing returns. See also: Florida drug testing welfare recipients cost more than it
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
I'm entirely onboard with reducing tax on low/mid income folks currently "exchanging a large fraction of their life for the small wage" in favor of increased taxes on the billionaire class, yes.
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by ceejayoz 5mo ago
Sounds great to me. I find these special founder-class shares that completely insulate folks like Musk and Zuck from their actual investors to be deeply problematic.
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I don't have to inspect every grain of rice with a magnifying glass to enjoy the overall dish.
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> So what does you practical utopia look like in real terms. When you hit a hundred billion in net worth, you get a nice solid gold plaque that says "I won capitalism", you get an attaboy from the UN, and we start taxing the sh
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We pay those taxes because not having the services and societal stability those taxes pay for also sucks a lot of life out.
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> he also knows which framing makes people more sympathetic instead of angry I'm of the opinion that this skill atrophies substantially for billionaires.
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I'm well aware of who pg is. I'm suggesting - and I think the politician was also clearly suggesting - that a certain point of scale it ceases to really be "earning" anymore.

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