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by axod 16y ago
Well, take your numbers, and reverse them for me /shrug/
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by axod 16y ago
That's a ridiculous metaphor which completely misunderstands advertising. Your metaphor would be more correct if you said it's like scrounging for scraps at the table of millions of successful people all at the same time. But you're not "sc
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by axod 16y ago
That's insanely optimistic to the point of absurdity.
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by axod 16y ago
> "People who do business via GMail/Google Apps want their social CRM built in right there!" Facebook? Sharing cute cat videos? idk doesn't seem like a business use case to me.
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by axod 16y ago
That's cool, there's definitely pros and cons with both. I've tried both, and even the time I spend with the charge backs and "I changed my mind and want a refund" aren't worth my time dealing with. It's just boring hassle. I definitely agr
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by axod 16y ago
Making $60 per hour per user isn't scalable. You can only service one user at a time. So it's apples + oranges comparison there.
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by axod 16y ago
You seem to have something fundamentally against advertising, which is ok, it's a commonly held view on HN. I just like to point out it's stupid to rule it out as a possible revenue stream every so often.
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by axod 16y ago
There's pretty substantial industries that are built on advertising revenue - free papers, television, and the internet. Over the last 15 years countless websites have proven you can make substantial amounts of money from advertising income
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by axod 16y ago
The same could be said for 'paid subscribers'. If you have a product you're selling for $10/mo you'll need 1,667 subscribers to make $200k/yr not taking into account churn, customer support overhead, etc The question is whether you think ge
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by axod 16y ago
I guess in summary then, both are viable. I've been making a living mainly from advertising income for just over 10 years now. I've also tried getting users to pay for things, and it's orders of magnitude harder (for me).
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by axod 16y ago
For what? What website? One of my websites generates $20 eCPM. Another generates $0.10 eCPM :/ What's your service going to cost? Multiply that by paying users and tell me how you're going to support N employees... I don't think arguing ove
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by axod 16y ago
It's not the amount of traffic, it's the fit between your users and the advertising, how targeted they are, intent, etc etc. Also it totally depends on the service/product. For stormpulse I don't think advertising supported is probably the
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by axod 16y ago
> "Ads are an extremely unreliable business model." How much money do you make from advertising revenue that allows you to quantify specifically how reliable it is? I'd question if you have enough data at your disposal to make a statist
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by axod 16y ago
FWIW, you don't have to charge users. Ad supported/affiliate marketing is a pretty viable business model and will often fit better than trying to charge end users.
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by axod 16y ago
I'm pretty sure microsoft doesn't care... They're capturing what users click on, which doesn't include any information about the wishes of the website owner.
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by axod 16y ago
They've done as much legally wrong as bundling IE with windows. It's most certainly morally wrong. I want to see a project started to r/e the bing toolbar, and create something to send rubbish data back to bing to screw up their search inde
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by axod 16y ago
Also websites can opt-out of having their content indexed. How can Google opt-out of having its search index copied by Microsoft? The funniest argument in this has been "Bing hasn't got the data, Google has an unfair advantage etc" as if Mi
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by axod 16y ago
Google should make their own toolbar that continually sends random bad data back to bing to screw up their results. I'd install it.
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by axod 16y ago
I'm pretty sure microsoft had a search engine before Google existed...
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by axod 16y ago
Also there's the strange fact that Bing and their whole online division makes gigantic losses. They're not in it for the money, they're in it to stifle competition and hold back progress so they can milk their cashcow some more.
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by axod 16y ago
Just to address your 'logic' above though: > "Like how Google copies the titles of web pages and snippets and puts them in search results?" Google copies parts of web pages to benefit the website. To send traffic to them. It's beneficia
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by axod 16y ago
With that logic you should definitely work at MS. It'd be a perfect fit.
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by axod 16y ago
Most people want to work in a company that innovates. This isn't innovation. Any fool can write something that copies data from a competitor.
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by axod 16y ago
I don't think it's embarrassing to point out that Microsoft is playing dirty. They played dirty with Netscape/IE in the 90s and look what happened.
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by axod 16y ago
And they can see how much time you waste answering questions on StackOverflow rather than working.
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by axod 16y ago
They just dropped the price 20% here. Getting more tempting...
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by axod 16y ago
What does taking CS have to do with building a website like POF?...
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by axod 16y ago
Not really sure what this is/does. Can someone summarize? Is it search/social thing built on github?
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by axod 16y ago
Fair enough, but my anecdotal evidence suggests broadband in the US is nothing to be proud of by any means.
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by axod 16y ago
http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-100mb.html Some already have it. (My brother for one) Schedule of when areas will get it from Virgin: (Other providers may be different). http://shop.virginmedia.com/content/dam/allyours/pdf/10

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