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by aogaili 5d ago
"if one person knows how to code, they don't need an LLM. I've tried using all of them on my job, and I will give them a second chance time by time (to see if the claims made by these big tech hold up) and ALL of the time I&#
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by aogaili 5d ago
People flag/downvote what they don't like without explaining much, and a lot of it are just feeling based/snap reactions. HN is not that rational of a discussion form but there are some good articles/comments so worth be
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by aogaili 5d ago
I think people are judging mainly the UI of the app. This is closed code app so they don't know, but they are judging by patterns in the UI and/or wording of documentation. And I think it is mainly tech or artists or whoever else
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by aogaili 5d ago
I hand written each one of them, I think they are full of typos and grammatical errors as well since English is not my first language. I assume you are saying that because I apologized. I apologize for sounding like AI, I assure you it was
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by aogaili 5d ago
That is the original comment: " for what seems to be a very much LLM-aided app? " The author mentioned LLM-aided app, not even AI assisted; nor vibe coded hence my reaction. I don't have insecurity from using LLM nor from cod
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by aogaili 5d ago
I get it - I think there mis-communication here. My comment was about not equating every LLM assisted app as poorly thought of. Your comment is about this specific app, and I personally would not install this app regardless of how it was co
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by aogaili 5d ago
But what does this has to do with LLM-assisted coding? I wouldn't trust this app even it was manually coded. In fact, given the recent reports, in terms of security, one is better off consulting LLMs on the exposure surfaces. Something
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by aogaili 5d ago
You are right - my apologies. It could be a good idea given that we will end up with so many doubts and comments like this.
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by aogaili 5d ago
I get it, and frankly I don't know about this app. But the parent comment positioned itself against all "LLM-aided apps", the author didn't say a slop or poorly coded. And even if it looks like LLM coded, we still can&#x
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by aogaili 5d ago
Maybe this developer didn't bother I didn't even look frankly. My point was that you can have very well designed and thoughted apps with LLMs. In fact, I'd argue you can go way further and deeper than any manual coded applica
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by aogaili 5d ago
It did make it easier to generate thoughtless apps, I agree. But this process is new, and not every AI assisted app is thoughtless. In fact, I'd argue that if a person put more thoughts and amplify their abilities with AI assisted codi
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by aogaili 5d ago
You can put a lot of thoughts while using LLMs. You are equating manual coding with more thinking, which has proven to be not the case given that it is mostly automated.
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by aogaili 5d ago
so what if it is "very much LLM-aided app"? We are going to have the organic label soon on apps with this mindset..AI assisted development is evolving by the day and at the rate most apps will be built that way..
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by aogaili 9d ago
Agreed! now that I see the sign, it is actually really decent and fits the theme of the shop. Someone felt threatened by it I think or it could be someone wanted to attack the coffee shop/owner for some reason. This is shaming/bul
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by aogaili 9d ago
The owner clearly cares, but she has a new born baby and looking for way to speed up things without adding extra admin overhead and expenses. She is now forced to go back to a manual process. She wasn't aware of the slop-shaming online
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by aogaili 10d ago
I agree, I think my comment was for the parent post. Sorry
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by aogaili 10d ago
Too lazy? I bet anything you never ran a small business of any sort.
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by aogaili 10d ago
"I guess the dream is that we'll all become business founders, with the LLM as our founding engineer, and we can just ask them to build what we think the business needs, and go through them to make refinements and changes." T
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by aogaili 10d ago
What about product vision? The taste, and the hundreds—if not thousands—of micro-decisions required to build something decent? What about codebase architecture? The user experience, and how using the software makes someone feel? What about
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by aogaili 10d ago
I appreciate the response and I get it. Something was lost in this transition and you explained it well. The only pushback I can think of is that I do feel coding, which is a list of instructions to a computer, differ from music. With LLMs
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by aogaili 11d ago
Exactly, well said. I think folks in the craft need to mature a bit and understand this very well.
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by aogaili 11d ago
Software developers/engineers build software - coding is a mean to an end. The craft is about creating a tool that others use not some divine code that programmers stare at and admire. You are confused that is why you are surprised.
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by aogaili 11d ago
good post/take.
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by aogaili 11d ago
Alright - the internet is vast place, and there are many places I wouldn't want to visit. The internet is growing with some ugly parts - but there are other people generating more interesting content precisely because their abilities a
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by aogaili 13d ago
Haha - I'm just seriously wondering, how can anyone tell at this point?
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by aogaili 13d ago
It is cool. But how do we know that nobody solved that problem before and it was somewhere in the training data? some blog, or some book or whatever?
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by aogaili 15d ago
I griefed a bit myself for the effort I put to learn programming, I do enjoy the concepts and theories, it was playground for my mind. But the way I see it, is that I got a matching partner, that is also very good at programming. And there
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by aogaili 15d ago
That should not be downvoted..this is true for manu people on this forum too. But we have the same examples in chess, running, bodybuilding etc..all of which machines have out performed us. And that good for humans are finding their true na
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by aogaili 15d ago
I think it's narrowing at the top.
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by aogaili 15d ago
Yeah - that's why I think they are basically squeezing the scaling laws and the current architecture with incremental innovations. I expect they will continue optimizing and improving for the current use cases/benchmarks. But the

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