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Too lazy? I bet anything you never ran a small business of any sort.

by aogaili 16d ago

nrmitchi 16d ago
I think you missed the point. I was using the parent commenters "too lazy" language. Small business owners are very often drastically overloaded and any "corners cut" is to get what is needed in place, and not "lazy". If you think the opposite, and that small business owners have ample time and are just lazy when they don't build everything from scratch, you should teach a course about how to manage a small business.
- aogaili 16d ago
  I agree, I think my comment was for the parent post. Sorry
sleepybrett 15d ago
I have actually and even a small retail place, what made it successful was the care I put into curating the product, building out the space and attending to the customers. When you clearly do not care is when you lose customers, they can smell it. When you take a very visible (everyone looks at it, especially new customers) aspect and use very obvious slop it sends a message.
- nrmitchi 15d ago
  You are projecting. Not only are yo projecting, you are attributing "AI coffee shop sign" with "not successful". You yourself say what made your "retail" successful was "the care I put into curating the product, building out the space and attending to the customers". None of those are "the A-frame sign that we put out for specials". You are trying to find one thing you disagree with and use that to call the owner "too lazy" and "doesn't care about their work".
- aogaili 15d ago
  The owner clearly cares, but she has a new born baby and looking for way to speed up things without adding extra admin overhead and expenses. She is now forced to go back to a manual process. She wasn't aware of the slop-shaming online, she saw a good enough sign and used it. If people don't like the coffee shop because of an AI sign, they go buy somewhere else, but they can spare the shaming, ideological lectures, projections and death threads. I bet you anything this is the same crowed that is lecturing people about pronounces and shaming them, a form of power exertion.
  - nrmitchi 15d ago
    "she saw a good enough sign " The additional thing is that it... isn't a bad sign. I have seen a ton of terrible AI-slop food signage. This sign does not try to be "hyper-realistic", and end up in an uncanny-valley, or look like fake food. It's not fully of spelling mistakes and things disobeying the laws of physics. Does it have maybe too much information shoved on it? Sure. Does it use a font that is definitely "AI-popular". Ya. But there are tens of thousands of worse examples of AI menu usage out there. It seems people decided to pick on this one because it's not horribly done. A local artist looked at it and, instead of thinking "wow that looks soo fake", they thought "that's basically the same thing I would have delivered, and 99% of people wouldn't have been able to tell the difference! I should have been paid for that!" Reference: the sign in question: https://www.instagram.com/p/DdBgsgnNDaC/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DdBgsgnNDaC/
    - aogaili 15d ago
      Agreed! now that I see the sign, it is actually really decent and fits the theme of the shop. Someone felt threatened by it I think or it could be someone wanted to attack the coffee shop/owner for some reason. This is shaming/bullying of the crowd and it is hurting a small business owner and a new mother.

Too lazy? I bet anything you never ran a small business of any sort.

by aogaili 16d ago

Too lazy? I bet anything you never ran a small business of any sort.

I think you missed the point. I was using the parent commenters "too lazy" language. Small business owners are very often drastically overloaded and any "corners cut" is to get what is needed in place, and not "lazy". If you think the opposite, and that small business owners have ample time and are just lazy when they don't build everything from scratch, you should teach a course about how to manage a small business.

aogaili 16d ago
I agree, I think my comment was for the parent post. Sorry

sleepybrett 15d ago

I have actually and even a small retail place, what made it successful was the care I put into curating the product, building out the space and attending to the customers. When you clearly do not care is when you lose customers, they can smell it. When you take a very visible (everyone looks at it, especially new customers) aspect and use very obvious slop it sends a message.

nrmitchi 15d ago
You are projecting. Not only are yo projecting, you are attributing "AI coffee shop sign" with "not successful". You yourself say what made your "retail" successful was "the care I put into curating the product, building out the space and attending to the customers". None of those are "the A-frame sign that we put out for specials". You are trying to find one thing you disagree with and use that to call the owner "too lazy" and "doesn't care about their work".
aogaili 15d ago
The owner clearly cares, but she has a new born baby and looking for way to speed up things without adding extra admin overhead and expenses. She is now forced to go back to a manual process. She wasn't aware of the slop-shaming online, she saw a good enough sign and used it. If people don't like the coffee shop because of an AI sign, they go buy somewhere else, but they can spare the shaming, ideological lectures, projections and death threads. I bet you anything this is the same crowed that is lecturing people about pronounces and shaming them, a form of power exertion.
- nrmitchi 15d ago
  "she saw a good enough sign " The additional thing is that it... isn't a bad sign. I have seen a ton of terrible AI-slop food signage. This sign does not try to be "hyper-realistic", and end up in an uncanny-valley, or look like fake food. It's not fully of spelling mistakes and things disobeying the laws of physics. Does it have maybe too much information shoved on it? Sure. Does it use a font that is definitely "AI-popular". Ya. But there are tens of thousands of worse examples of AI menu usage out there. It seems people decided to pick on this one because it's not horribly done. A local artist looked at it and, instead of thinking "wow that looks soo fake", they thought "that's basically the same thing I would have delivered, and 99% of people wouldn't have been able to tell the difference! I should have been paid for that!" Reference: the sign in question: https://www.instagram.com/p/DdBgsgnNDaC/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DdBgsgnNDaC/
  - aogaili 15d ago
    Agreed! now that I see the sign, it is actually really decent and fits the theme of the shop. Someone felt threatened by it I think or it could be someone wanted to attack the coffee shop/owner for some reason. This is shaming/bullying of the crowd and it is hurting a small business owner and a new mother.