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antpls
8y ago
If you want to "upgrade" the old server-client model (request-response) to a realtime instant bidirectional information flow (dialogue communication), you surely want to look at protocols such as XMPP.
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8y ago
Do you have a better idea? This is an iterative process. Yes, GlobaLeaks could be used to spread fake leaks, but then it will force all democratic processes to be more transparent, in order to efficiently prove or disprove leak L or new N.
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8y ago
> trusting the recipient of sensitive information to use it well is a much more difficult Just curious, why is that even in the process? If you want to spread information, would you not distribute it to as many people as possible? Why do
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8y ago
> How many marriages are going to be ruined? Not many, considering marriages are less popular among young people nowadays. > How many politicians are going to resign? Not many, considering older politicians maybe don't spent thei
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8y ago
The root of the misunderstandong is that their is no rational in the proposal. How are people supposed to understand any proposal without a rational?
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8y ago
What we are saying is : In the attempt at understanding the use cases of this proposal, people said in the thread webhooks were created to replace RSS+GET pull, as an "enhancement". As we are trying to explain : this proposal does
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8y ago
Fair enough
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8y ago
In the same very quora response : "Additionally, the fact that PubSubHubbub requires applications to have a server endpoint makes it difficult for desktop and mobile clients to implement." That's fine, you precised it would b
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8y ago
So basically, this is IRC, but the initial authors were removed, and the whole thing is less efficient because it runs over HTTP. At some point you have to go outside of the HTTP world and look for what already exists rather than reinventin
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8y ago
Sorry, but the title says "Open distributed protocol for pub sub communication", the only buzzword missing is "federation", which is by the way not used in the proposal. The difference between a proposal like ActivityPub
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8y ago
Please, provide a source as a proof that "Platforms like Facebook already use protocols like this for their content propagation". > It is not. Also, Websub does not change anything for clients just directly fetching the RSS fee
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antpls
8y ago
What makes you think people want news in real time? By the way, we can also have news in real-time by pulling RSS directly from the sources, like every 2 minutes
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antpls
8y ago
This is ridiculous. Any big enough palteforms such as Medium or Reuters will already partner with CDN, cloud firewalls, automatic provisioning, etc to handle traffic. For small self-hosted blogs, authors can pay a CDN that will absorb any e
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8y ago
Excuse me Sir, but I think you didn't understand what I meant. - With today's technology, you don't need an intermediate online, 3rd party, feedreader. Devices can pull data from the sources. - Not only devices can pull
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8y ago
No they dont. I use an offline mobile feed reader which pulls RSS feeds directly from the sources and it doesn't require any 3rd parties, like Flipboard, Feedly and others. RSS with a simple pull GET request is actually more OPEN than
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8y ago
In that context a feedreader (like feedburner) is a Subscriber, right? But then millions of users have still to potentially pull the data from the feedreader, because they can't implement WebSub, because they have limited connectivity
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8y ago
I'm glad the proposal is useful to actual businesses. However, it now seems WebSub was created to add a middle-man that will a) read all your activities and b) take a transaction fee on every update?
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8y ago
The machine could go a level above and helps the human to reflect about its intents. That would basically be a machine convincing the human he/she is already happy right now, and he/she doesn't need to earn more money, and th
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8y ago
> If you subscribe to 1000 RSS feeds I'm subscribed to about 40 RSS feeds on my mobile phone, and I don't even have the time to read everything. > It's way more efficient at scale (I.e. when feeds are actual people, lik
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8y ago
> distribution of RSS items more efficient RSS is a 500kb static text file which is updated usually at most every hours. The whole file fits in server RAM and can already be served to thousands of people from cache with minimal CPU usage
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8y ago
Best explanation for me so far. Problem I see is that the same resources constraints could be on the Subscribers (limited connectivity, limited uptime) and the protocol does not address it?
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8y ago
Thanks for the explanation. I still don't see the plus value compared to a simple pull-news-from-URL model. RSS with GET is already session-less, and remains functional for months, AND also works when the clients cannot receive incomin
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8y ago
So I read the comments but I still don't understand what problem this specification solves. Does it enable new use cases? Does it enable new trust models? Since it's only a server protocol, how do final users actually read the con
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8y ago
Ultimately, "Android" is about automation and integration (hence the name), and WhatsApp is fighting the spirit of the Android API.
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8y ago
At first, I thought WhatApps wanted to slow down automation and bots because they just don't want people to be helped in their communications (which would be weird, given their mission is to help people to communicate). However, afte
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8y ago
> Neural networks are graphs that evolve at runtime by balancing their weights based on reinforcement, and as far as I know there hasn't been much success in using formal methods for AI. This is not correct in the current state of t
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8y ago
A theorem prover let you prove that your code is bug free in some cases. Why not use a theorem prover for your specifications too?
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8y ago
If you are proving the wrong statement, then you simply didn't state the initial problem correctly, it has nothing to do with a bug in your proof. It's like saying there is a bug in your implementation of a sort function, while we
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8y ago
> One of the biggest problems is that it's really hard to tell how such a system arrives at a decision. The human brain itself is not based on formalism, and we find formal thinking to be very challenging So far, "neural networ
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8y ago
In such an hypothetical world, the "typical CRUD application" may just not even exist anymore. I was talking about advances in consumer drones, autonomous cars, and personal robots, such as SpotMini from Boston Dynamics. More auto
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