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No they dont. I use an offline mobile feed reader which pulls RSS feeds directly from the sources and it doesn't require any 3rd parties, like Flipboard, Feedly

by antpls 8y ago

No they dont. I use an offline mobile feed reader which pulls RSS feeds directly from the sources and it doesn't require any 3rd parties, like Flipboard, Feedly and others. RSS with a simple pull GET request is actually more OPEN than this proposal.

onli 8y ago
You're just wrong. Platforms like Facebook already use protocols like this for their content propagation. This has nothing to do with your offline mobile feed reader. > RSS with a simple pull GET request is actually more OPEN than this proposal. It is not. Also, Websub does not change anything for clients just directly fetching the RSS feed.
- antpls 8y ago
  Please, provide a source as a proof that "Platforms like Facebook already use protocols like this for their content propagation". > It is not. Also, Websub does not change anything for clients just directly fetching the RSS feed Indeed, it simply adds a middleman between the content producer and the final consumer.
  - onli 8y ago
    > Indeed, it simply adds a middleman between the content producer and the final consumer. No, it does not, not for the clients you seem to think about. The regular RSS feed does not vanish. For platforms like facebook using schemes like this, see https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-Facebook-implement-PubSubHubbub-as-a-Subscriber https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-Facebook-implement-PubSubHu... and https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/webhooks https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/webhooks
    - antpls 8y ago
      In the same very quora response : "Additionally, the fact that PubSubHubbub requires applications to have a server endpoint makes it difficult for desktop and mobile clients to implement." That's fine, you precised it would be used between servers. But it limits the "openness" of the concept imho
      - onli 8y ago
        It limits the applicability of the concept, sure. But I would not call that openness. It is not like there is a proprietary element or something that hides information from clients, it is just an enhancement that works only in a specific situation.
        antpls 8y ago
        Fair enough

by antpls 8y ago

onli 8y ago

You're just wrong. Platforms like Facebook already use protocols like this for their content propagation. This has nothing to do with your offline mobile feed reader. > RSS with a simple pull GET request is actually more OPEN than this proposal. It is not. Also, Websub does not change anything for clients just directly fetching the RSS feed.

antpls 8y ago
Please, provide a source as a proof that "Platforms like Facebook already use protocols like this for their content propagation". > It is not. Also, Websub does not change anything for clients just directly fetching the RSS feed Indeed, it simply adds a middleman between the content producer and the final consumer.
- onli 8y ago
  > Indeed, it simply adds a middleman between the content producer and the final consumer. No, it does not, not for the clients you seem to think about. The regular RSS feed does not vanish. For platforms like facebook using schemes like this, see https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-Facebook-implement-PubSubHubbub-as-a-Subscriber https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-Facebook-implement-PubSubHu... and https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/webhooks https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/webhooks
  - antpls 8y ago
    In the same very quora response : "Additionally, the fact that PubSubHubbub requires applications to have a server endpoint makes it difficult for desktop and mobile clients to implement." That's fine, you precised it would be used between servers. But it limits the "openness" of the concept imho
    - onli 8y ago
      It limits the applicability of the concept, sure. But I would not call that openness. It is not like there is a proprietary element or something that hides information from clients, it is just an enhancement that works only in a specific situation.
      - antpls 8y ago
        Fair enough