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Religion has no place in school as it is, except to teach in high school that this is what some people believe (and Christianity should not receive any preference). The sooner we stop indoctrinating kids into nonsense, the sooner we can hav
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This is really really nice!
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That was my only point, that they claim something which simply is not true.
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4y ago
> If your product or service is accessible to EU citizens, in the EU market, then you need to abide by the laws of the EU It's not that simple though. If I offer a website in the US, I can collect the info of anyone that visit it as
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IIRC they do try to claim it applies outside of Europe; they say their laws apply to any entity processing data of EU citizens, regardless of where the data or website actually lie.
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4y ago
Oh, I see, I think I misunderstood your previous reply - my apologies! And thanks :) My thinking is that the visual and tracking ads are often one and the same. Much tracking is invisible and many ads are well-behaved, but I would say most
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4y ago
Enough. How many sites do you regularly read that you wouldn't mind paying $1 or 2 for? I don't mean big sites like HN or Reddit or whatever, they are not going anywhere, but a ton of small kind of specific sites, they are going t
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Yup I agree. Most people can afford a dollar or two a month to subscribe to a site they think is worthwhile.
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The scenario I was thinking of was a final solution to the cat and mouse game of detecting ad blockers. If the site and js checks and thinks the ad is being displayed but it isn't, that's a win.
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Oh, I'm not against advertising, and never claimed to be. Nothing wrong with people or companies letting me know about things they are selling that I might even like. But a) the majority of advertising we see for big companies is not n
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I used to want to try and make something that would render ads to a virtual dummy screen, so anything that would check for them would show them as being present, but no user would see them.
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That's the way it should be. If you can't make money without spamming ads from third parties, then you never had much of a business model. More ad blockers means less sleazy predatory businesses.
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I don't know what his specific issues are but I've always found it odd how many IT professionals prefer Apple. The interface is so frustrating to me and there is so much the OS makes hard to do. It really does get in the way a lot
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> Its unique ability to treat packages as programmable data (i.e., derivations) How is this useful in practice?
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It's funny you mention OpenBSD and pledge/unveil, because they don't really come close enough to being able to lock down the system, while linux has things like SELinux/RSBAC available.
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So, I'm going to go ahead and assume you are indeed on the spectrum at this point. Not that it matters. But once again you just parrot a point back at me lol. > That short code example LCOKS DOWN A COMPLEX THIRD PARTY PROGRAM. The f
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> Go ahead, tell me a specific thing that I can't limit with pledge and unveil. Note that everything you mentioned when discussing Oracle could be done with them. Sigh. I've listed numerous examples, and like a dipshit you just
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> The same thing as any other framework. No. Not even close. You're missing the point. There is a fundamental difference which you are ignoring or blind to. With something like pledge, you can't limit anywhere near as much as w
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> You exec oracle with an unveil that prevents a compromised oracle from touching any data that you didn't intend, and an exec pledge that removes the ability to open any raw devices other than the ones you handed to it directly. An
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Again, from the start, my scenario and example was third party software. Feel free to re-read the thread from the start if you want to confirm that. I'm not interested in retreading anything. I don't even want to continue discussi
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Oracle, and third party software was the example I used from the start. SELinux absolutely can protect Oracle or any complex program. If you want t discuss this further, illustrate how pledge can protect against a remote root exploit in Ora
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Stop spreading misinformation. Hell stop replying to me. You're basically a cultist at this point with your irrational emotional devotion. That's not a 'weaker version of pledge', it's part of a much larger framewor
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> They aren’t (and do not) require any privleged system calls, whatsoever. You're making a distinction about 'privileged' system calls, why, exactly? You really think something like Oracle won't require access to a to
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That isn't the context of the conversation. You really are very disingenuous. How about you show me how you lock down an OBSD system that is running, say Oracle. With pledge.
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And I don't think you understand just how many syscalls big third party applications are going to require.
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Haha, so you can't even answer the question lol. Yeah, it's clear you have no clue about SELinux at all. What is with you and putting so much effort just to argue out of loyalty and emotion when you don't even know the thing
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I honestly can't even imagine putting all my faith in pledge and chroot like you do. It genuinely boggles my mind that you think this is a good approach.
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I'm not being smug or insulting when I ask this, but are you familiar with SELinux at all, or have you administered any systems? > If you believe that there's a way to become root, why don't you believe there's a way
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> I'm just trying to put meat on the bones of your argument, If you were uncertain about something, why not just ask? > I think "an insecure PHP app" qualifies as third party software, mod_php would be, not the php app
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> I've been trying to engage in good faith, You put words in my mouth and seemed to be misconstruing my point. I didn't assume bad faith, but I didn't assume good faith either given that. > you have a lot of dismissive,
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