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I think what we are missing is smarter tools. I think that's the argument here. What we really need is the ability to say something like "I want a data structure D holding objects of type Q, with an ordering using this key-accesso
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12y ago
Personally, I think this is an extremely important topic, we need to change the way we program. It isn't the 70's anymore, why do we still program like it is. Why does it take teams of developers to create and manage applications
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12y ago
I'm on the fence, but to play devil's advocate: This is about start ups, it's about hiring and managing different genders, I've seen many great links posted which may help managers in start ups deal with gender issues. I
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12y ago
It could be an income level thing. Not that I like making generalizations (and this is just the observation of other people's experience, I don't agree with this personally as I have no personal data to support the majority of obs
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12y ago
I'm saying they are of similar weight, to be clear Github's interpretation of the events and Horvath's interpretation of the events are both valid perspectives, neither can be invalid, to the party in question. We have to wei
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12y ago
Very much this. This report doesn't discredit's Horvath's perspective of sexism, it in fact supports it. The reality that there isn't sexism in general isn't in-congruent with that. The report also speaks of github&
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12y ago
Independent auditor hired by the company being audited, instead of hyping her record, they should have provided evidence of it. I'm not saying the auditor wasn't independent, just that I don't trust the claim coming from the
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12y ago
Also the fact it was a company hired investigator. It's in the companies best interests to hype their impartiality. Here's hoping a news organization will do some reporting and find out if this investigator has the record claimed,
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12y ago
It's not about differing opinions, it's about actions which exclude and/or oppress people. It's one thing to campaign for the republican party, or donate money to them. That's not a problem. The problem is donating
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12y ago
Because jQuery, as a public project, is not supporting github financially. For a company paying thousands of dollars to github, trusting them with potential trade secrets, they would care about the stability of github's employees, the
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12y ago
Yea, but the state courts tend to show some deference to federal interpretation.
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13y ago
We're already there [1] for vectorized code (Haskell vs. Hand written C). Note how they compare naive haskell solutions with their vector library vs. heavily optimized C code and using finely tuned libraries. And they are competitive,
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13y ago
It isn't revenge, it's self defence, this guy still believes this, and is now making more money. It seems likely he'll do something similar again.
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13y ago
Oh yea, because having to step down from a company is like going to jail, or hell, not being able to see your dying significant other because you aren't allowed to marry. Yep he was definitely persecuted.
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13y ago
Oh so the degree of badness of supporting institutional oppression (you know, systematically removing (violating) the rights of people based on their identity through laws, etc.) is less than that of telling a company to fire someone (which
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13y ago
Using religion as an excuse for bigotry still means you're a bigot. Religions are personal things, and should only affect your life, not other people's.
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13y ago
I'm ignoring your partisan labelling/strawman/etc. On the second point, that's why employers aren’t allowed to ask those questions (nor use them in their evaluation of employees). Those are the protection laws I mentione
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13y ago
So? What if my religion said mangos shouldn't be cut before being eaten? Obviously that shouldn't apply to everyone else, that's my religion. So at that point he's a bigot justifying it with his religion which still me
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13y ago
Economic retribution from the government the first amendment does not protect your rights with respect to things like keeping a job. If you call your boss an asshole to his face on a regular basis, you are going to be fired. Which is why
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13y ago
If he was against it because of some non-homophobic reason wouldn't he probably have shouted that from the rooftops? Let's say he was against it because it expanded the institution of marriage (a decent idea, but I wouldn't v
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13y ago
This reminds me of the future predicted in Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge. Where he explores the ability to spin up pools of analysts like a cloud server.
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13y ago
Or perhaps it's the rest of the thing that colored her view of this perhaps harmless event. It could go both ways. Prolonged sexual harassment by two (three?) people at a company where HR does nothing effective and your perceptions of
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13y ago
Do you have a source for the "at a party" part? The majority of my comments have been predicated that this was in a work environment. The Horvath techcrunch article states "at the office". More to the point: Yes because
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13y ago
I think the point here is that they failed at their job so many times that Horvath gave up on it.
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That's fine, but that's not the logic the OP used to counter Horvath's feelings of a problem. The OP instead seemed to imply that the women were more at fault for causing the men to gawk (not just watch). However emotionall
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13y ago
I'm not saying it's wrong for them to watch. I'm saying it's wrong for them to gawk, to such an extent that other employees don't feel safe in the work environment. Admittedly we only have Horvath's version, an
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13y ago
It's not that people were looking, it was that they were gawking. It's not that they glanced at it, or watched for a few seconds. It's that they spent a prolonged time watching it.
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13y ago
Your first point is valid. It depends on what actually happened. But the OP's comment: "As for the hula hooping... you're telling me that two women hula hooping to music in the workplace is perfectly appropriate, but when the
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13y ago
> Could you elaborate on this? I've seen yoga, weights, and those things you compress, basically stuff to get the blood flowing again. Hoola hooping is probably a bit more admittedly, but not that extreme. Especially since it sounds
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13y ago
That's fair, and Horvath's description is vague: "What I did have a problem with is the line of men sitting on one bench facing the hoopers and gawking at them" But it's important to remember these could go the othe
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