I'm not saying it's wrong for them to watch. I'm saying it's wrong for them to gawk, to such an extent that other employees don't feel safe in the work environm

I'm not saying it's wrong for them to watch. I'm saying it's wrong for them to gawk, to such an extent that other employees don't feel safe in the work environment. Admittedly we only have Horvath's version, and to be fair she was dealing with two (three?) other people who were apparently completely out of line. I'm saying both genders should be to do some hoola hooping with no one feeling like anyone is being sexually objectified. There are comments in this little subthread about how people think this whole little episode is ridiculous regardless of genders. Those are the people who work in environments where they feel safe to do these things, the fact that Horvath apparently didn't is a problem, whether caused by github in general, or specific people with in it, the jury is still out. But my point was that this event can not be marginalized due to the logic that it's not the men's fault because the women were being seductive. It can be subject to scrutiny because of the personal feelings involved.