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PommeDeTerre
13y ago
I'm not sure that's true at all. A lot of us older developers look at the tools we used in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, and we can't help but notice how much better they are, even today, than many of the most-hyped tools these
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Even today, web apps do not rival the desktop apps of a decade or two ago. Yes, there has been some advancement, but web apps are still inferior in every respect. The performance of web apps is much worse than that of desktop apps, for exam
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It's disappointing to see your kind of a response here. It starts when somebody makes a legitimate observation that a very specific set of functionality has been shown to have serious flaws in practice, and then suggests that perhaps t
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13y ago
Of course you can distrust somebody who wears a suit. I didn't say that you couldn't, or that you shouldn't. You keep forgetting about the context we're discussing here, though: real-world business dealings. When one par
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I take it that you're not a "person who wears a suit"? The reality of the business world is that those who control the money are often "people who wear suits". This is especially true when large sums of money are in
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13y ago
That may be true for you and the other 99% of customers. However, if that 1% of customers who do consider such things to matter are the most important of a given firm's customers, then their opinions on such issues can have an astronom
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13y ago
Regardless of whether it's right or wrong, physical appearance can often have a big impact when dealing with certain clientele. Certain types of clients just prefer to deal with people who conform to what might be considered a more &qu
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But this is the sort of basic functionality that shouldn't be coming in a standard nearly 20 years after the language was first released. This is especially true when other languages have had such functionality since before JavaScript
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13y ago
It working for you doesn't change the fact that it's not working for somebody else. It's still broken in at least that one case, and that's enough to raise concern among those of us who want to avoid such failures.
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13y ago
I think that your "I don't care about languages, I already know js." attitude perfectly describes the problem with many JavaScript programmers. This sort of proud basking in ignorance is shameful, and should be considered una
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13y ago
I don't intend to offend you, but I think you illustrate a problem with many programmers who have come into the field with a self-taught JavaScript or PHP background, and without any sort of a formal education. Type systems, complexity
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13y ago
It's very good to see more and more people openly admitting that JavaScript's prototype-based OO approach just isn't practical. For far too long now we've had to hear JavaScript advocates go on and on about how good Jav
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13y ago
I suggest that you refer to the CoffeeScript home page: http://coffeescript.org/ It very clearly states, 'The golden rule of CoffeeScript is: "It's just JavaScript".'
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13y ago
There's nothing "offensive" about pointing out realities, even if they may be painful for some people to accept. I find your arguments somewhat odd. You do openly admit that you "wouldn't particularly enjoy coding i
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I've met talented JavaScript programmers. They're just quite good at using other languages, too, and thus choose not to use JavaScript whenever possible.
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It's disappointing to see the false "JavaScript is functional" claim thrown around time and time again. Just because it has first-class functions it does not mean that JavaScript is a "functional" language. JavaScri
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How much experience do you personally have with other programming languages, aside from JavaScript (and perhaps PHP, if you're familiar with it)?
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I've dealt with these kind of programmers on numerous occasions. While they may claim to know other programming languages, they usually don't know much about them at all, in reality. If they do know another language, it's PHP
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Like I tried to explain to you earlier, those who use Django and the other Python web frameworks that may not really support Python 3 yet are a very small portion of the entire Python user community. Many of the rest of us have been happily
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13y ago
Yes, Python is obviously used for web development. But it's very short-sighted, and even absurd, to claim that the "bulk of all the Python out there is web code". It's even more absurd to claim that "Django, Twisted
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How does that have anything to do with GNUstep?
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Not supporting real native apps is a massive lack of very critical functionality. This alone makes it far more difficult to write apps that perform well, especially those that are doing something that's resource-intensive. Developers a
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How is being able to do a small subset of what Android and iOS devices (among others) have been able to do for many years now seen as "promising"? I can somewhat see the price argument, but that's tenuous, at best. Even in de
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Rust does have a lot of potential, but don't underestimate how much change it has undergone lately, and will likely be undergoing in the future. The large amount and rapidity of change makes it difficult to use it seriously. It's
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It may look pretty to some people, but it's horrendous to use in a desktop browser, especially when you just want the important information. The video is a time-waster, without offering any useful information. It then takes a bunch of
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The notes very clearly state, "The benchmark test system is a 297MHz Ultra Sparc with 256MB RAM / 512MB swap running Solaris 2.6". What you're referring to is merely an observation about the actual capabilities of web se
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Let me get this straight. So he's an "asshole" because you and possibly some other people refuse to accept that certain English words have multiple distinct definitions, and because you also refuse to take into account contex
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It's quite odd how so may Git advocates relentlessly stress the importance of decentralized source control, yet they turn around and centralize so heavily on GitHub (including source control).
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There are many automated systems that'll detect outages, and take some sort of an action in response. There's no need for this site to be involved in any way.
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Isn't the whole point of "responsive web design" to provide a good experience across a wide range of browsers and devices, without the user having to do anything special? Having to switch browsers (from a very modern version
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