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4y ago
That depends greatly on if the systems in question are expected to provide universal service or not. This is perhaps the crux of the question - do we expect Google to operate as a public service capable of delivering service in a way that m
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This feels ever-increasingly like asking Google to cover the role of a government agency. Universal service is something we expect of government agencies. It's rarely something we expect of private enterprise. The whole "community
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Gmail already has a system for using one account to unlock another, so no changes required there. A bank, USPS, or DMV generally requires ID or other identifying documents. The people we're trying to help often struggle to retain physi
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4y ago
> I am, yes, if the alternative is that they loose access to their account every few months! Good to hear, though I confess to a bit of confusion. The issue I pointed to is that they're going to lose access to their accounts frequen
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4y ago
OK. That raises all sorts of follow-up questions, as turning off security measures can be expected to have consequences. What should Google do in the scenario that this purposely-low-security-for-the-unhoused account is breached? What about
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4y ago
What is the ask that is overwhelmingly reasonable? As has been pointed out to me and others, Google already offers a way to turn off 2FA - https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/1064203 Naively this seems like
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I have the nagging sense that what we're seeing amounts to throwing one's hands in the air and exclaiming "There must be a way!" As others have pointed out, turning off 2FA is available. Apparently that doesn't work
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4y ago
Ah! Then the problem is solved, I suppose.
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While I agree that empathy is the motivation and starting point, I do want to note that a lot of people in this discussion do seem to sincerely believe that this problem would be easy for Google to solve if they just cared enough. The frami
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4y ago
The problem here boils down to this: how does this help people who don't have secure, reliable storage for off device backup?
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4y ago
It seems to me that Google is in full control of what they've built here. They've chosen not to put in the effort to find a way to meet the needs of this portion of their user community. On the one hand, this can be quite reasonab
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To be clear, your answer to vulnerable people needing protections is to lower the minimum level of security for everyone using Gmail. Do I understand correctly?
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4y ago
You're absolutely right. Now let's talk about how much effort and what level of resources it's reasonable to expect a commercial entity to invest in extending protections to vulnerable people in need who happen to not be cust
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4y ago
OK. Let's play a game. Let's say I care. Let's say I care a lot . I care so much that I'm willing to make it my personal problem to address the very real, very pressing needs of a critically vulnerable and marginalized
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4y ago
A lot of these things can't be meaningfully statically checked. It has to be done by a working policy apparatus. If your org can't adopt, implement, and adhere to policy then there's no amount of standards documents in the wo
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That kind of divide ultimately falls apart. Over time, things built in dev mode rely more and more on its insecurity and production systems get pushed that way. This is why development systems need to be as production-like as possible. Othe
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Looking at the guide, much of the hardening is above and beyond anything any Kubernetes configuration can be expected to do. Thus there is literally no way to ship a pre-hardened Kubernetes that has to be softened with a checklist guide. Mu
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4y ago
I've known engineers who would swear up, down, and center that using Haskell or Lisp or Clojure made them more productive. More features, better, and faster. From the outside, I didn't see any evidence of this. The people who were
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Yeah, that's plausible. They don't care about drugs and adultery. They care that it's leverage. If the world already knows, it's not leverage.
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4y ago
Sometimes there are issues beyond the... creative representation of the candidate. From the company's perspective, this could easily land them in legal hot water as they now have no idea who the "employee" is or what their le
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4y ago
The thing about security is that it's perfectly fine to not have it most days. Suddenly, all at once, it's not fine at all. A very large company has an exceptionally bad time and a lot of people are affected. Small startups and bu
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4y ago
> In startups, its not uncommon to have engineers who have been handling various responsibilities, including security (especially early employees). You're right! That said, by the time a company is large enough that 17% of it is mor
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4y ago
They can be, but in large parts of Michigan they haven't been - a quick check says 15% of power lines are buried. So any weather event that risks damage to tree limbs also risks power outages.
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To add to this, there was a major storm last week that knocked out power for significant chunk of the Detroit area for up to three days. That's in August, mostly from wind.
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They can be, provided that disclosure is handled up-front and the contract is structured for it. Dropping that on someone who had every reasonable expectation - and possibly even contractual language - about you doing the work yourself is q
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4y ago
As far as I'm aware, KF didn't come with the kind of direct liability under US law that sex work content does. I welcome the chance to learn that I'm wrong here!
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It's not difficult to say, but it can be difficult to live at any meaningful scale. That invites endless pressure campaigns and similarly endless accusations of acting arbitrarily, capriciously, or with insert-bias-or-agenda-here. None
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Is that a rhetorical question or a sincere one? Legal liability. American law has lots of direct liability for Cloudflare under SESTA/FOSTA for being involved in sex work websites. There's not equivalent liability for hate website
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4y ago
If I want a bit of clip art for a presentation or stock image for a website, is it disdainful to say it's irrelevant to me if it was made by a living human or a computer? I want the thing. An artist getting paid is a means to an end fo
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4y ago
There are helmets you can lock with your bike.
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