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Jlagreen
1y ago
Actually, Nvidia has already built the ecosystem. Now, they are refining and adapting it to the fast research in AI. Others talk about chips when Nvidia thought about interconnects 8 years ago. Today, competitors try to catch up on this whi
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And yet, Nvidia innovates in gaming with SW 10x more than anyone. Strange side business it is which is also worth billions by the way. Did you know that Nvidia has a gaming cloud running which might become the largest in the world at some t
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Because Nvidia focuses on being a partner in each industry you mention. See it that way, if you have an OS/SW for all the industries you mention then who is your competitor? Not the participants in that industries. Nvidia can partner w
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One of the most important contributors to QC is Nvidia because they try to help with GPUs in creating SW for QC and simulations. Nvidia has cuda quantum for years now.
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Yes, but the cloud customers "who finance TPUs" have NO INTEREST in TPUs and in Nvidia GPUs instead. How does Google pay for TPUs internally? By Google Search and Google Cloud of course. Google Search uses TPUs, Google Cloud howev
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2y ago
Yes, we can see how Big Tech and Apple's huge margins get compressed all the time, they never expand. They are going to zero soon it seems :( You can't say that in general because it also depends on the moat. Apple has 75% profits
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What are you talking about? Nvidia has been a high margin and great performing business for the last decade. Nvidia had better gross margins than apple by selling gaming GPUs only 10 years ago and that's in a market where you can easil
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The way I see it is that Nvidia might reacht $1 trillion in revenue before AMD reaches $100 billion in revenue. So the upside in revenue growth is higher for Nvidia. People think that because a company has grown very large very quickly that
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Ah, I'm sorry you're right a misunderstood your comment. I agree and Nvidia positions itself for exactly that. See how fast DeepSeek will come to NIM. People are already wondering how well DeepSeek will run on Digits. Nvidia also
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That was never the moat. Nvidia's moat is controlling compute for 80-90% of workloads. Why do you think Steam has more RTX 4090 than 4080 in their survey? Ever since RTX 2080TI you could buy multi server consumer GPUs for ML. We sell P
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Nvidia had 65% margins 5 years ago when they primarily sold gaming GPUs. What margins do you think Nvidia is charging for RTX which getting more and more expensive every generation? What margins do you think Project Digits will be for Nvidi
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2y ago
Without Nvidia, you would still wait for ChatGPT moment and not even think about AI at all. I have been invested in Nvidia for 9 years and I have not only witnessed what Nvidia has done in ML/AI but also how the entire field evolved. T
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So the focus is trying to find things where LLMs are bad instead of trying to find out where they are good and find applications for that? That's basically like trying to embarass a IQ 180 student on emotional intelligence. But I guess
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is llama405 a distilled model like DeepSeek or a trained frontier model? I honestly ask because I haven't researched but that's important to know before one compares.
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For 2 decades we were told how Apple will have to cut their margins due to competition and so on. Today, it's simple. Apple has 25% unit share in smartphone markets and 75% profit share. Apple makes 3x the profit of ALL OTHER smartphon
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Nvidia is already doing that. What needed 1000k of Voltas, needed 100k of Amperes, needed 10k of Hopper, will need 1k of Blakwell. Nvidia has increased compute by a factor of 1 million in the past decade and it's no where near enough.
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The good thing is: Blackwell DC is $40k per piece and Digits is $3k per piece. So if 13x Digits are sold then it's the same turnover as a DC GPU for Nvidia. Yes, maybe lower margin but Nvidia can easily scale digits into masses compare
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And yet, Blackwell is sold out. What does that tell us? The industry is compute starved and that makes totally sense. The tranformer model on which current LLMs are based on are 8 years old. But why took it so much time to get to the LLMs o
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The $5M was the cost of the training itself. You can rent 10k H100 for 20 days with that money. Go and knock yourself out because that compute is probably higher than what DeepSeek received for that money. And that is public cloud pricing
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Your implication is that we have unlimited compute and therefore know that LLMs are stalled. Have you considered that compute might be the reason why LLMs are stalled at the moment? What made LLMs possible in the first place? Right, compute
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That's wrong. DeepSeek is a problem for Big Tech, not for Nvidia. Why? Imagine a small startup can do something better than Gemini or ChatGPT or Claude. So it can be disruptive. What can Big Tech do to avoid disruption? Buying every SI
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No, Nvidia's margins won't drop at all and the proof for this is Apple. The units of AI accelerators will explode, the market will explode. At the end of the day, Nvidia will have 20-30% of the unit share in AI HW and 70-80% of th
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My entry into Nvidia is 2016, my portfolio has never been red since then.
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Deepseek was trained on Nvidia GPUs H800. Nvidia is still selling GPUs to China and the reason even the reduced chip performance is easily negated by scaling. US government is stupid because they asked for certain limits on chip base first
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I would shoot myself if I had to wait 9 seconds for a query. I sometimes even would like to kill by browser taking seconds to open a page...
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Yes, so Chinese did what they are best at, taking something working (foundational model which is free), copying it and improving it. Nothing special to see here. The good thing is that Chinese models are dependent on open sourced US models.
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What do you think ASI will be? We will only advance in AI if one day AI learns from itself otherwise we don't need AI. Because AI learning from itself at X times faster than humanity is the reason we want to get there in the first plac
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That's why the shovel maker from back then are selling mining machines today. Everyone here thinks Nvidia is dommed because of training efficiency. But what has Nvidia been doing for the past decade? Correct increasing training and inf
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THIS is the only correct statement in all of this. The goal for AGI and ASI MUST BE to train, inference, train, inference and so on and that all on the fly in fractions of a second from every token produced. Now good luck calculating the co
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The issue is it feels like we came to a stop but Hyperscalers are simply waiting for Blackwell. That's all. Why buy 100k Hoppers if 20k Blackwell offer the same compute so then it's better to buy 100k Blackwells right? Backwell wi
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