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7y ago
Specifically, Apple Pascal: http://pascal-central.com/images/pascalposter.jpg (i want to recreate this in SVG and print a real poster out of it at some point). Although AFAIK the original Mac was also programmable with
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7y ago
Most of those (e.g. having a GPS, being able to deposit checks, measuring objects, making calls, playing music, etc) do not affect desktop computers though, which is the issues i and apparently the author of the linked article have with sma
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7y ago
What i meant is getting rid of html,css,js,etc and the entire stack and replacing it with something simpler. There isn't an issue with interoperability with other browsers as there wont be any other browsers, there is no need to intero
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If you need a custom browser for this to work then why not get rid of the entire HTML+JS+CSS+Wasm+whatever else complexity monstrosity and not build something much simpler based on almost three decades worth of hindsight?
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7y ago
> considering all sorts of screen sizes has actually improved web design in the most part Yeah, no. Considering all sorts of screen sizes usually means considering all sorts of mobile screen sizes and depending on your browser width, whi
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7y ago
I agree with the posted article more, but i see your stance (and the others who echo your stance) as equally valid. I think the difference between the two is how you already have fallen into using smartphones. My POV and i guess the author&
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> I bought a non-Apple hypercardish environment that ran on Windows 3.1 . Out of curiosity, was that Asymetrix ToolBook? The original was neat and very HyperCard-ish, although for some reason they pushed later versions as an e-learning a
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Aside PowerShell already mentioned before, Windows had system-wide scripting since Windows 98 (some parts since Win95) with windows automation and active scripting that allowed any application to expose COM objects and interfaces for manipu
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7y ago
My original comment was targeted to both users and developers, but obviously the "make better tools" is only targeted to the subset that can make those better tools.
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Hence my original comment about people sticking with 70s style terminals. We can do a lot more than that, but we just don't do it.
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7y ago
If you think that GUIs == Flashy, then i think you have a very narrow view of what GUIs are. Also a GUI does not have to be processing intensive and unless you have configured Linux to not use a graphical console and you are not using X o
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7y ago
> For serious applications, you have to build TUIs assuming the worst - that the user has no colors or special keys. Realistically, what are the chances of this happening nowadays and how worth is it supporting such users? > That woul
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7y ago
Yes, terminals do support graphics like they do support applications that look at last as good as applications you'd find on DOS (if not better), my point is that the programmers who make those applications do not take advantage of tho
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7y ago
No, i did not implied that, please do not put words in my mouth. My implication was software that if it fails it will kill people. Otherwise if a program crashes because of a situation happens once every 100000000 runs, not only is worthles
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MPL does allow closed source extensions, Netscape wanting to create a proprietary browser on top of Mozilla was the main reason MPL was created and they didn't use something like GPL.
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7y ago
Yes, this is how things are nowadays and what i refer to in my message above: developers basically gave up trying to make more advanced UIs and regressed to 70s-styled terminals.
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7y ago
They are not 70s products but they look like 70s products. See my original comment about how those TUIs look and feel worse than programs you'd see in DOS despite having a lot more power and features available to them - even if you con
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7y ago
> It could report the error “hey we are out of memory and couldn’t do xyz” or better “hey we are out of memory and couldn’t do xyz, this is probably because of abc, maybe you can adjust the tuning.” What if you cannot do that report beca
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What if malloc fails at that point because some other application (we're in a preemptive multitasking OS) decided to gobble up all RAM?
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> The Unix tools don't work on guis. Then try to come up with better tools!
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> You seem to be confused No i am not confused, i'm perfectly aware of what i am seeing and writing, thank you. > developers work with text. What more can computing power bring to text? This is highly myopic, there is more to dev
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> Modern PCs being insanely fast doesn't mean we have to use software that requires insanely fast computers. Never claimed that, but efficient software doesn't imply 70s terminal UIs.
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I don't think KDE was ever serious, especially considering the mascot was initially some old bearded wizard in blue robes, striped socks and slippers with fishbones in his pockets[0] :-P. But the theme was way more neutral than most th
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7y ago
The thing is most people aren't using software because of the OS, they are using an OS because of the software it has. The requirement isn't "i want to run macOS" because macOS by itself doesn't really do much, it i
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> ask the user You just failed to create a toolbar button, how are you going to ask a user do something if you already failed to create a tiny UI element?
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No it wasn't which is exactly why i brought it up (well that, and it was the most popular - despite its shortcomings).
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Mobile is the worst thing that could happen to desktop UX.
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> Young developers nowadays seem to mostly use dark backgrounds, which to me feels like a weird '70s throwback Everything "young developers" nowadays do seem to me a weird '70s throwback - from the proliferation of th
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7y ago
The point is that he wants to use a program that isn't available on the OS you are suggesting.
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7y ago
Is this a low-key ad for 23andme?
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