Crinus

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by Crinus 7y ago
GIMP, like Photoshop, is a complex tool for people who know what they are doing, nobody in that category would be confused by such a situation especially if GIMP shows a warning dialog in case there would be data loss when saving (something
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by Crinus 7y ago
At least in 2.10.10 (i haven't yet installed 2.10.12 here) it asks you to save the PNG image you modified as a XCF.
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by Crinus 7y ago
> GIMP's current behaviour is simply better. Period. This is subjective, i do not find it better. "Period." > doesn't let the misconceptions bite you There are no misconceptions. I create a blank image, paint an ar
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by Crinus 7y ago
Unless you have observed all users then you are pulling the "people lost data" out of thin air. Here is something that actually happens since version 2.8: if you do not treat XCF files as the master image file format, GIMP compl
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by Crinus 7y ago
It is not always a lossy conversion, e.g. saving a GIF image to a PNG image is a lossless conversion. If the operation is lossy then show a warning (assuming you haven't already shown a dialog like GIMP's file format dialogs), if
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by Crinus 7y ago
Yes, the current behavior makes sense if you are treating the XCF files as your "master version". The problem is that as long as you want to use something else as the master version and do not want to bother with XCF files at all
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by Crinus 7y ago
Please read the message you respond to. I already wrote: > Unless you use functionality that the format you are trying to save to doesn't support, then you can resume your work. If you try to use functionality that the target format
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by Crinus 7y ago
It means opening PNG files, saving PNG files, creating PNG files, etc without seeing XCF at any point (except perhaps if you try to use a feature - like layers - not supported by PNG when saving and GIMP showing a dialog to warn you about i
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by Crinus 7y ago
Not as a single developer, but i'm certain a team of developers can do it even without having some big corporation behind them.
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by Crinus 7y ago
I don't know about CAD, but this is not how many applications that save to multiple formats work - including image editors, as i point out in another reply of mine here where i list image editors that put the supported formats in their
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by Crinus 7y ago
I have a retail/boxed version of PSP7 and i really like how fast it opens. At some point i want to make my own "PSP clone" since i do not see any other image editor trying to use a similar UI (i think GraphicsGale is kinda in
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by Crinus 7y ago
Note that i refer specifically to PSP versions 5 to 7. In version 8 (or 9, i do not remember) they rewrote the UI which was much slower and had several issues (not only the UI but also some of the tools) and last i heard after it was bought
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by Crinus 7y ago
Well, it annoyed others, that doesn't mean they cannot also appreciate how good GIMP is. It isn't like you can either like ALL aspects of a program or NONE with nothing inbetween.
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by Crinus 7y ago
I do not think it is impossible, Firefox alone has rewritten several of its major components at least once. I see it more as a self-fulfilling prophecy and a constant stream of FUD from naysayers whenever such a thing is merely suggested (w
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by Crinus 7y ago
Note that i mention, i haven't used any version above PSP7 (well, i have used 8 and 9 and i wasn't happy so i reverted to 7 and nowadays the use some onerous DRM so i do not even consider it). PSP7 works perfectly fine on Windows
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by Crinus 7y ago
Even if you use Export to save, GIMP will complain that you didn't save the image you just saved because you wanted to use a format others can open as opposed to the format it wants to push. It is not a major issue, but it still is an
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by Crinus 7y ago
They will eventually stop being beginners. However beginners or not, unless your primary file format is XCF, GIMP will always annoy you about not saving your image even though you did it - just instead of saving it in its own proprietary fo
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by Crinus 7y ago
I'll agree as long as you do not see Photoshop as the end goal for user friendliness :-P. Personally i have used Photoshop only a little and every time i used it i found it much harder than GIMP for the tasks i wanted it. I'd like
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by Crinus 7y ago
No sure what you mean? What sentiment and how would you analyze it?
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by Crinus 7y ago
Personally i'd see the first one as suggestion, but the second one is more complex. If it was just "It sucks you got rid of feature x" i wouldn't see it as neither suggestion nor demand (personally i dislike some changes
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by Crinus 7y ago
So the difference is really how you perceive what someone is writing? What if your perception is wrong?
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by Crinus 7y ago
> Practically every image editor on the planet I do not have many editors installed here, but Paint does have all formats on Save. Paint Shop Pro also has all formats on Save. I do not have it installed, from what i can see in the docume
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by Crinus 7y ago
How do you differentiate between suggesting and demanding?
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by Crinus 7y ago
This can be solved in the same way other applications that can save to multiple formats solve it: if you only use the functionality the target format supports, saving works transparently (so, e.g., you can create an image, draw an arrow and
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by Crinus 7y ago
Export is "Save to a different file as a potentially different format", so it is the same action. Unless you use functionality that the format you are trying to save to doesn't support, then you can resume your work. If you t
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by Crinus 7y ago
If you only use the functionality the target format has (e.g. you want to paint an arrow on a PNG image) then you are actually saving . If you tried to save in a format that would end up with data loss, GIMP could simply display a dialog w
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by Crinus 7y ago
Reminds me of this music video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4taIpALfAo
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by Crinus 7y ago
Yes that is what i had in mind.
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by Crinus 7y ago
I also dislike this change and i use GIMP for almost 15 years. The Export As dialog serves no purpose, the Save As dialog can support all the formats like it did before and if someone wants to save the currently edited image in another form
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by Crinus 7y ago
You misunderstood what adventured wrote, it isn't that he (adventured) believes that it was out of Jobs' control, but that Jobs himself saw something happening (his daughter's birth) that he didn't control. Jobs wanted t

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