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by 9214 7y ago
I urge anyone who's interested in that kind of stuff to read "Allure of machinic life" by John Johnston [1]. A fascinating read that touches upon all strands of natural computing (soft / hard ALife, wetware, AI, evolutio
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by 9214 7y ago
He covers Eishin campus at great length in 2nd volume IIRC. And indeed, metabolists are on the opposite side of the spectrum.
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by 9214 7y ago
The title immediately reminded me of Alexander's "Nature of Order" [1]; HN audience might know him as the proto-father of software patterns who, allegedly, inspired GoF (although he himself is an architect). First part of Gab
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by 9214 7y ago
Reminds me of solid-state theory of life's origin, described by Robert Becker in his "Body Electric" book. It proposes that life came from semiconducting crystals (various rocks and sediments in the ocean of hot primordial so
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by 9214 8y ago
> `redprogramming.com` which is linked to from the official website Official page links to learning resources provided by community, to compensate for TBD state of official documentation. We can't, however, control other people&#x27
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by 9214 8y ago
> I'd like to be able to hand a string (or file) of what I think is valid (or invalid) Red code and have the lexer return to me that input NOT executed but parsed into lexemes, grouping tokens, and appropriate white space. This is w
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by 9214 8y ago
> Red/Rebol might actually be too ad hoc No offence, but very few people who raise such concerns actually take time to learn the language (or even launch a REPL at least once) and understand its design, so I appreciate you digging d
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by 9214 8y ago
> this is provably false If it's provably false, then take your time to actually prove it before calling someone a liar. > my initial an subsequent posts remains just as valid. They remained as biased as the were. You waved away
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by 9214 8y ago
Can you back up your acqusations with palpable evidence? Neither Red author, nor any of official project representatives "made a go" on Clojure or any other language and its community, as far as I'm concerned. As for "de
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by 9214 8y ago
> Where is the BNF? Here [1]. Red and Smalltalk syntax look similar, but semantics are very different. They only relation to object-oriented languages Red / Rebol have is through prototype-based OOP, e.g. Self [2]. Forth doesn'
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by 9214 8y ago
> This is a bald-faced lie, and one can see that by following the links I provided. You call me a liar now? Tone down a bit, would you? By "formatting" I meant formatting output of error messages (changing size of the buffer do
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by 9214 8y ago
Bus factor - fair enough. Lack of tests - have you counted them? [1] 2/3 of issues you showed are purely formatting concerns, so I'm not sure what needs to be tested there. "test.written" refers to test being written in
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by 9214 8y ago
Touche.
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by 9214 8y ago
Even though some of my responses in this thread can be considered butthurt-ish in the hindsight, I don't think that judging whole community by one individual is a good idea.
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by 9214 8y ago
Thanks for the input!
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by 9214 8y ago
My apologies then, better to be safe than sorry. Like I said, the best way to dispel the confusion is to play with Red by yourself and ask question in community chat. It is puzzling at first, but clicks over time.
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by 9214 8y ago
> comparing Red to Clojure when Red doesn't run on 64-bit machines is also misguided It is misguided, and such comparison wasn't made by any of official representatives, if that's what you imply. I only recall that decis
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by 9214 8y ago
"Wizardry" surrounded by "cult", "no highly visible projects" and "shortcomings", followed by unbacked focus on a particular national group reads more like "quackery" to me. I get that meani
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by 9214 8y ago
Safe sandbox: Rebol had Protect and Secure dialects [1, 2], which are planned to be implemented in Red. Language is very dynamic though, so there's a certain limit on what kind of safety can be enforced at runtime. Creative problem dom
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by 9214 8y ago
Frankly, I don't get what Czech has to do with it and why it was mentioned. Major part of old-timers (from Rebol era) in our community are indeed Czech people, but Red development was initiated in France, moved to China, and now bridge
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by 9214 8y ago
I don't recall anyone fighting to the death over someones syntactic preferences. Code written by experienced users (and Red codebase in particular) is a hard nut to crack, that's true. Regarding development: I'd appreciate if
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by 9214 8y ago
That kinda a broad question. Easy - you can create a live-coding IDE in 20 lines or so, Draw and View a pretty capable for interactive Processing-like demos, bottlenecks can be rewritten in R/S. Hard - hit the academical papers and def
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by 9214 8y ago
I admit that I can get off the base when it comes to critique from outsiders uninvolved in the project, and appreciate cross-checks from others. Besides, a warning shot won't hurt anyone.
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by 9214 8y ago
Articles you linked are fairly old, unofficial (that is, don't represent opinions of Red designers and developers) and are written by more-or-less experienced Rebol users. That is, it's hard to talk objectively when you have a tun
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by 9214 8y ago
OP can always correct me if I'm wrong in my defensiveness.
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by 9214 8y ago
I do not appreciate your remark about our community and Czech-speaking part of it. This is rude and uncalled for. Regardless of gender and nationality of community members, and despite the fact that Red is an alpha software, the following
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by 9214 8y ago
My point is that Rebol and Red are extremely good chameleons - they hide all their power behind the approachable facade, and make a false impression of "oh it's just X, nothing serious". I saw a fair share of people who, base
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by 9214 8y ago
Although Logo is said to be an ancestor to Rebol (which in turn is an ancestor to Red), there's more it than an apparent "childish" simplicity on the surface. http://www.rebol.com/article/0103.html Langu
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by 9214 8y ago
Idiomatically written Red is largerly data-driven, composed out of mini languages and micro formats (dialects), with huge emphasis on homoiconicity and rich set of available datatypes. Functions indeed are mostly used to guide the flow of p
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by 9214 8y ago
I'd say your reaction is understandable, but unfairly biased.

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