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I don't like people suffering as much as you do but I cannot conclude from these videos that these people were deliberately attacked by Russians (I mean videos with the footage). You are posting ukranian sources and as much as u sympat
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have you actually read what you have posted? i google translated: > There were also some Ukrainian soldiers present at the intersection, but they were outnumbered, according to HRW. The Ukrainian soldiers who were at the crossroads helpe
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> So, fuck Putin, fuck Russia and their expansionist ambitions Being a member of nato is like being in a gang whose leader (US) really likes to fight and cripple others (I would say way more than russia in recent history). It is certainl
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There was no signed agreement, I'm not disputing that. And I don't think it's valid to use the term "hearsay" for a transcript. Putin is putin, he's dictator with no regard for human life at this point. What I
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I know about telegram and groups there very well, there are also groups calling out the fakes. It's all noise and propaganda (from both sides). Its nearly impossible to know what's true and what is fake. https://www.bbc
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There are multiple memorandums and cable transcripts in the link I posted. Verbal guarantees were given on many occasions but conveneniently forgotten or dismissed later on. I fail to see how smth like Bucharest memorandum is so different
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Google nuland tapes https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 There seems to be a continuous supply of people joining in to discuss this subject here on HN who haven't done any research whatsoever.
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How do you know that exactly?
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9/11 was big. Too young to have witnessed the rest and I would not be able to say what were the consequences of mlk or jfk assassinations.
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Twitter? Are you serious? There's massive psy ops going on. Guardian and mainstream western media is shit. From what I've seen only Al Jazeera tries to be impartial (telling both sides if the story, and not forgetting "we wer
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Clearly it is not capable as it is not in the NATO despite willing to do so.
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By the same token No Nuland intervention -> No putin intervention So who is responsible?
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Thanks, thats informative. It would be even more informative to single out crimea and donbass as separate entities in the survey - the views there are probably quite peculiar.
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There's quite a number of people on the streets. Can't vouch for veracity of the posted content as I'm outside.
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> The threat of nuclear war was not made in the context of NATO expansion, the deployment of nuclear arms next to Russia’s borders, etc. "Russia will use nukes once ukraine joins nato?" It doesn't make any sense. The nukes
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a bit of extrene violence, then nothing. after that the police starts imprisoning active people, threatening them via families etc. belarus scenario
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russia could help with rebuilding ukraine if sanctions are weakened. Grozny was rebuilt after all.
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> In the world where might makes right, it’s justifiable for the head of a state to literally threaten everyone with nuclear weapons. He was warning about nato expansion to the russian borders being unacceptable for mane years. Did the w
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> Previously you were all saying we're hysterical and there will be no invasion. Who "we? US intelligence knew about the build-up and Putin has allegedly suggested the possibility to Biden ad well. > I've had enough of
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Do you know what genocide means? It's war, it's bad but it's not genocide.
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can confirm and dont understand why this is downvoted
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Seen protests in Belarus?
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The US cannot blame itself for being irresponsible in Ukraine (because the US is never wrong, not in the moment at least) hence the narrative of Putin being the new Hitler trying to build a new great russia (or similar).
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Thats not putins problem if whoever ukraine "elects" is not able to join EU or if the EU doesn't take them. No one forbids them.
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Because Ukraine is neighboring Russia and is of strategic importance in its security considerations. Once ukraine is in nato russia has no leverage over what kind of arms are deployed there for instance. Did you hear about the Carribean cri
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spot on. russia started the war. this war is a response to steep development of ukraine-nato relations in 2021 and complete disregard of the minsk accord by kiev (suggested or sanctioned by the us).
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because he's not expanding russia. hes not letting ukraine to join nato. Check john mearsheimer for an understanding how putin thinks
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EU is irrelevant. They could be EU if they agree to neutrality and let go of crimea and donbass. EDIT: EU was explicitly mentioned as irrelevant by putins press-secretary in a recent press conference (he was asked about it).
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work out a deal with russia (there were 2 rounds of talks and the third will be on 7th)
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> the only way this war ends without escalation is when the Russian people convince their government to stop fighting it It's not happening in weeks to come whatever the west does.
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