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Until Windows supports and supplies bash + the gnu core utils by default, they will have a hard time getting me to switch.

m3talridl3y 11y ago
I'd live to see Bash, in a terminal emulator that isn't terrible, with a working .bashrc file, on windows. Sadly they just don't get it.
- fphhotchips 11y ago
  What's your criteria for a terminal emulator that isn't terrible? I have cygwin running bash with a working .bashrc file in MintTTY and that seems ok?
rdtsc 11y ago
Protip: Install Git for windows. Then instead of regular cmd console, you can right click on the folder and use "Git bash". Not full on bash, but you get a better console with ssh, scp and a few other utilities.
- hetman 11y ago
  You're probably better off installing standalone MSYS with something like mingw-get-installer which also gives you a convenient GUI for installing other common GNU/Unix utilities (and a somewhat crappy command line package manager). It even gives you a half decent terminal (in the form of mintty). I tend to do most of my windows scripting using bash cause it's just less effort that way. Still, it's not a first class citizen like on Linux, and Microsoft seems to be going down it's own path with powershell (which at best gives a nod to the existence of things like bash, but not a lot more).
  - rdtsc 11y ago
    I went off the fact that most people caring about some command line on Windows likely also installed Git on it. In that case it is like getting it for free.
mey 11y ago
If you want bash/tools I would suggest Cygwin.
hobarrera 11y ago
I don't we'll eve see gnu core utils (due to licensing), but BSD core utilities would be great though.
- MetaCosm 11y ago
  I don't think that would be terribly useful, as a bunch of concepts important to Windows the BSD core utilities would have no idea about. Registry, NTFS, etc. Honestly, I find 'nix users unwilling to learn PowerShell the exact same as Windows user unwilling to learn a 'nix shell and core utilities. PowerShell doesn't have SED -- but it has pipeline replacement. $ cat .\x.txt | %{$_ -replace "sed", "powershell"} It also has ideas that are completely different... rather than plain text pipe, it has an object pipe, which lets you do stuff like: $ ps | sort company | ft ProcessName -groupby company Which outputs your processes in table format grouped by company, like ... Company: Greenshot ProcessName ----------- Greenshot Company: inkscape.org ProcessName ----------- inkscape Company: IvoSoft ProcessName ----------- ClassicStartMenu Company: Microsoft Corporation ProcessName ----------- taskhostex conhost explorer ...
YorkianTones 11y ago
Bash scripts run in Powershell. We have hundreds of bash scripts for infrastructure build/deploy/etc. and they are cross-platform. On windows we execute them in Powershell. Powershell's been around for a decade and runs on XP and above (edit: and ships with Windows, I think Win7 and above). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1098786/run-bash-script-from-windows-powershell http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1098786/run-bash-script-f...
- taspeotis 11y ago
  > Bash scripts run in Powershell ...if you install Bash [1] so PowerShell can execute it. In much the same way that batch files can call Bash, or Windows Explorer can if you double click on it. > A caveat to the accepted answer is that sh is not included in vanilla Powershell. I had to install Git, which optionally adds some UNIX tools to the PATH in Powershell, sh.exe being one of them. > Note: sh.exe or another *nix shell must be associated with the .sh extension. [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1098786/run-bash-script-from-windows-powershell http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1098786/run-bash-script-f...
skrebbel 11y ago
Until OSX supports a start menu and powershell by default, they will have a hard time getting me to switch.
nycticorax 11y ago
If you find yourself using Windows from time to time, you might try Cmder: http://gooseberrycreative.com/cmder/ http://gooseberrycreative.com/cmder/. It's currently my favorite Unix-like shell on Windows. I've used cygwin and Hamilton C Shell in the past, but Cmder offers, among other things, a console emulator (ConEmu, I gather) that is much better than the default Windows console emulator.

m3talridl3y 11y ago

I'd live to see Bash, in a terminal emulator that isn't terrible, with a working .bashrc file, on windows. Sadly they just don't get it.

fphhotchips 11y ago
What's your criteria for a terminal emulator that isn't terrible? I have cygwin running bash with a working .bashrc file in MintTTY and that seems ok?

rdtsc 11y ago

Protip: Install Git for windows. Then instead of regular cmd console, you can right click on the folder and use "Git bash". Not full on bash, but you get a better console with ssh, scp and a few other utilities.

hetman 11y ago
You're probably better off installing standalone MSYS with something like mingw-get-installer which also gives you a convenient GUI for installing other common GNU/Unix utilities (and a somewhat crappy command line package manager). It even gives you a half decent terminal (in the form of mintty). I tend to do most of my windows scripting using bash cause it's just less effort that way. Still, it's not a first class citizen like on Linux, and Microsoft seems to be going down it's own path with powershell (which at best gives a nod to the existence of things like bash, but not a lot more).
- rdtsc 11y ago
  I went off the fact that most people caring about some command line on Windows likely also installed Git on it. In that case it is like getting it for free.

mey 11y ago

If you want bash/tools I would suggest Cygwin.

hobarrera 11y ago

I don't we'll eve see gnu core utils (due to licensing), but BSD core utilities would be great though.

MetaCosm 11y ago
I don't think that would be terribly useful, as a bunch of concepts important to Windows the BSD core utilities would have no idea about. Registry, NTFS, etc. Honestly, I find 'nix users unwilling to learn PowerShell the exact same as Windows user unwilling to learn a 'nix shell and core utilities. PowerShell doesn't have SED -- but it has pipeline replacement. $ cat .\x.txt | %{$_ -replace "sed", "powershell"} It also has ideas that are completely different... rather than plain text pipe, it has an object pipe, which lets you do stuff like: $ ps | sort company | ft ProcessName -groupby company Which outputs your processes in table format grouped by company, like ... Company: Greenshot ProcessName ----------- Greenshot Company: inkscape.org ProcessName ----------- inkscape Company: IvoSoft ProcessName ----------- ClassicStartMenu Company: Microsoft Corporation ProcessName ----------- taskhostex conhost explorer ...

YorkianTones 11y ago

Bash scripts run in Powershell. We have hundreds of bash scripts for infrastructure build/deploy/etc. and they are cross-platform. On windows we execute them in Powershell. Powershell's been around for a decade and runs on XP and above (edit: and ships with Windows, I think Win7 and above). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1098786/run-bash-script-from-windows-powershell http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1098786/run-bash-script-f...

taspeotis 11y ago
> Bash scripts run in Powershell ...if you install Bash [1] so PowerShell can execute it. In much the same way that batch files can call Bash, or Windows Explorer can if you double click on it. > A caveat to the accepted answer is that sh is not included in vanilla Powershell. I had to install Git, which optionally adds some UNIX tools to the PATH in Powershell, sh.exe being one of them. > Note: sh.exe or another *nix shell must be associated with the .sh extension. [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1098786/run-bash-script-from-windows-powershell http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1098786/run-bash-script-f...

skrebbel 11y ago

Until OSX supports a start menu and powershell by default, they will have a hard time getting me to switch.

nycticorax 11y ago

If you find yourself using Windows from time to time, you might try Cmder: http://gooseberrycreative.com/cmder/ http://gooseberrycreative.com/cmder/. It's currently my favorite Unix-like shell on Windows. I've used cygwin and Hamilton C Shell in the past, but Cmder offers, among other things, a console emulator (ConEmu, I gather) that is much better than the default Windows console emulator.