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I was interested in working at Apple so I messaged a few of my alum friends. All of them said they worked around 60 hours a week. Nope, can't pay me enough to w
by kelukelugames 12y ago
I was interested in working at Apple so I messaged a few of my alum friends. All of them said they worked around 60 hours a week. Nope, can't pay me enough to work 60 hours a week.
- yulaow 12y agoThe irony is that, if I remember correctly for what I read in the book about the biography of Steve Jobs, in the very old apple of Jobs and the Lisa, the team leaded by Jobs was working 120 hours/week and even making t-shirt to brag about it.
- joezydeco 12y agoIt was 90 hours. http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=90_Hours_A_Week_And_Loving_It.txt http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=90_Hours_A_Week_A...
- yulaow 12y agoThanks, I really have to re-read that book one of these days.
- scott_karana 12y agoAnd how rich are those employees, because of their stock vesting, compared to current ones, getting paid mere salary? ;)
- pinewurst 12y agoThey were getting paid around $20K a year (ref folklore.org) at a time when that wasn't exactly munificent. I'm not even sure they had stock grants either, just promises of greatness from Steve. Idiots.
- wpietri 12y agoWe all have our weaknesses. I'd rather have contempt for the manipulators than the manipulated.
- pinewurst 12y agoI apologize if it came off as contempt for the manipulated. I meant it more as sadness for them. St. Steve on the other hand...
- bghhgycff 12y agoContempt for a caricature is difficult to justify. A. Ask any of the original Mac team if they'd have skipped the opportunity. B. Most of them have done quite well for themselves.
- stephencanon 12y agoWhy do you think current employees don't get stock?
- fauigerzigerk 12y agoAah such were the olden days! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1by0-nkKOTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1by0-nkKOTs
- beamatronic 12y agoYou can pay me to work 60 hours a work, but so far no employers choose to.
- jarin 12y agoYou'd have to pay me in time off. Preferably about 20 hours a week.
- javawizard 12y agoWhat about future time off? I'd happily work 60 hour weeks for $1,000,000/year, then retire after 5 years.
- protomyth 12y agoThose type of jobs do exist. People working insane hours for about 5 years then cashing out. A lot of people say they would do it, but I wonder how many would survive that type of grind.
- storgendibal 12y agoActually, it gets better. That's the dirty little secret that I never knew about. Investment banking used to have insane hours (100+ basically on call all the time). The idea was that after 4-5 years you leave for a buy-side gig (hedge funds, private equity) that pay you the same or more ($1-5M in your early to mid-30s) but with more reasonable hours. This is why the smartest CS/Math/EE/Physics grads from MIT etc went to Wall Street in the 2000s. I wish I knew then what I know now :) I put in 100+ hours a week for a tech firm because interesting/love what I do/blah. And all I have to show for it is stock that increased a little bit.
- dmix 12y ago> And all I have to show for it is stock that increased a little bit. Oh lucky guy. I've heard enough of these stories without even that. But startups are highly voluntary so I take that relatively lightly compared to corporate responsibility of Apple et al.
- Sevzinn 12y agoI exaggerate my time worked. Most people are like me.
- bghhgycff 12y agoWithout knowing what you'd be working on? Seems shortsighted.