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Apple Watch Keynote Live Streaming
- vidoc 12y agoi don't know if you guys have the same thing but the sound is absolutely horrible here.
- gotrythis 12y agoThe fine print: "Live streaming video requires Safari 5.1.10 or later on OS X v10.6.8 or later; Safari on iOS 6.0 or later." Really?
- nchlswu 12y agoYep. Every keynote. Usually some people will post source links which should be streamable from non-mac machines.
- grecy 12y agoSomeone always posts a link that can be opened in VLC on any platform.
- ctdonath 12y agoSince they're not inclined to ensure all browsers can support it (the "walled garden" principle at work), makes sense to say what it does intentionally work on, and even take minor steps to ensure unsupported platforms don't work (so they don't get hit with "well, it sorta worked but sucked on Browser X!"
- FLGMwt 12y agoNot a super great argument for a $700bn company and when Safari has a < %5 browser market share. It's definitely intentional and definitely lame.
- Zikes 12y agoThe only two excuses for that are technical incompetence or purposefully insular attitude. Edit: Downvotes are fine, but a counterargument would be more welcomed. There are dozens of live streaming services out there now that support every platform available, but Apple always insists on using their own. It backfires every year as the stream is flaky or has audio/video sync issues. If they can't bring themselves to partner with someone else, they could at least devote the resources to fixing their own broken system.
- TheGRS 12y agoIf apple is looking to attract newcomers to their platform I think the last thing they should do is totally isolate them simply because they don't own an apple product already.
- Zikes 12y agoThat's partly my point, but also the notoriously bad quality of the stream can't be doing much to boost the confidence of existing customers. Additionally, being in the middle of a workday, many current Apple users and fans may not have access to an Apple device right now. It just seems like a lose/lose situation all around, but they stubbornly persist.
- organsnyder 12y agoA big part of Apple's marketing strategy is to create an entire experience around their brand. If you don't have Apple products, you're on the "outside". This plays perfectly into that strategy.
- asavadatti 12y agoWell in this case having an Apple device doesn't seem to help much.
- droidist2 12y agoThere's a Safari for Windows though isn't there?
- Someone 12y agoI don't know whether it is a counterargument, but does anybody know how many users want to watch this keynote, relative to other events? The numbers I could find are 1.3 million viewers for this year's Super Bowl, 1.7 million for USA vs Germany in the FIFA World Cup, and 81.000 simultaneous viewers for the Macworld keynote, in 2002 (https://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/01/09Apple-Delivers-Record-Breaking-Webcast-of-Macworld-Keynote.html https://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/01/09Apple-Delivers-Re...) I think it is safe to bet that Apple's keynotes have a larger audience nowadays than in 2002, but how large is it? Reading http://www.scribblelive.com/press-release/record-breaking-one-million-viewers-simultaneously-stream-scribblelive-coverage-of-apple-event http://www.scribblelive.com/press-release/record-breaking-on..., I do not rule out that it has more viewers than that Super Bowl stream, which, Google and my own experience tell me, wasn't perfect, either. So, maybe, limiting this to Safari users is their best option. Feel free to improve this speculative line of thought by providing data.
- masklinn 12y agoNot really[0], they just can't be arsed to officially support the rest. But it uses HLS[1] which no browser other than Safari and Android browsers support, so you have to use an external program (e.g. VLC) [0] http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/2yfqyj/watch_the_apple_event_live_on_a_windows_pc_check/ http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/2yfqyj/watch_the_appl... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming
- realityking 12y agoPerhaps interestingly, it was recently announced that Internet Explorer 12 will also supports HLS. If you are wondering, like I just did, why it's supported on Android but not Chrome: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=54198#c19 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=54198#c1...
- derefr 12y agoIf you're just a member of the public (even one who uses Apple products), Apple is going to tell you the important consumer-facing bits of this presentation with some TV commercials later. The rest of the stuff in the keynotes—the stuff that makes them keynotes, rather than ads—only matters to Apple developers. And I'm not sure how you'd be an Apple developer without already being able to watch this. (Even if you only develop HTML5 webapps for iOS, that still means you've got an iOS test device.)
- ankurpatel 12y agoAlternate live blog Verge: http://live.theverge.com/apple-watch-macbook-liveblog-march-2015/?_ga=1.177397029.1819749979.1425907547#/ http://live.theverge.com/apple-watch-macbook-liveblog-march-... Gizmodo: http://live.gizmodo.com/our-apple-watch-liveblog-starts-right-here-at-10am-pt-1689915279# http://live.gizmodo.com/our-apple-watch-liveblog-starts-righ... Tech Crunch: http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/08/apple-watch-event-live-blog/ http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/08/apple-watch-event-live-blog... CNET: http://live.cnet.com/Event/Apples_March_9_event http://live.cnet.com/Event/Apples_March_9_event Ars Technica: http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-march-9-spring-forward-event/ http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-march-9-spring-forward-ev... Re/Code: http://recode.net/2015/03/08/liveblog-its-time-for-the-apple-watchs-real-debut/ http://recode.net/2015/03/08/liveblog-its-time-for-the-apple... WSJ: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/09/apple-watch-spring-forward-event-live/ http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/09/apple-watch-spring-fo... Cult of Mac: http://www.cultofmac.com/314636/apple-watch-event-liveblog/ http://www.cultofmac.com/314636/apple-watch-event-liveblog/
- pacofvf 12y agoThe Verge liveblog is hilarious
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- matthewrudy 12y agoI think that's wrong. It's currently 12:45am in HK, and HKT is the same as Shanghai, UTC+8. The keynote starts in 15 minutes.
- qnk 12y agoThanks, fixed! I had some hours off because of Daylight Saving Time this past weekend in The U.S.
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- publicfig 12y agoHere's a link to getting the stream working outside of Safari: http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/2yfqyj/watch_the_apple_event_live_on_a_windows_pc_check/ http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/2yfqyj/watch_the_appl... Copied and pasted: So it says on the Apple website that only OSX Safari works and any Apple handheld. No Windows devices are compatible straight off the bat (like how it's been for all this time) An easy workaround is this: Download VLC Player from here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html[1] Install it and everything, make sure it works correctly. Open the program. Click on Media (top left) > Open Network Stream. You will see this screen: http://puu.sh/bqV9o.png Paste this link into that field: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1503ohibasdvoihbasfdv/live/8500/8500.m3u8?x-session
- mk4p 12y agoNote: the trailing "[4]" is not part of the actual URL; it refers to the link in the Reddit footnotes.
- publicfig 12y agoWhoops, I didn't see that. It's been fixed
- brians 12y agoThat might work! But I think you're dodging some of the load-balancing intelligence in Safari, and so missing one of the important feedback loops for stream performance. It might work---or you might find that reloading the page, you're offered new URLs.
- yuvadam 12y agoQuick stream URL for anyone who wants to watch the event regardless of their platform - http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1503ohibasdvoihbasfdv/m3u8/atv_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1503ohibasd...
- colinramsay 12y agoAs someone from the UK I can never watch a stream like this because of all the whooping in the audience. They just whooped and cheered at an announcement to capture your gait for medical purposes; I mean as a whole the potential is exciting but does each individual pause warrant this kind of chest-beating? Edit: they just applauded and whooped that Apple won't see your data! WTF! Well done Apple, you're not invading our privacy!
- slg 12y agoA lot of the people at the event (and the most likely source for the cheers) are Apple employees. This presentation serves as both a consumer product introduction and a company pep rally. EDIT: Just to clarify since I got some early downvotes, this isn't some conspiracy that Apple secretly pays plants in the audience to cheer. It is a known fact that select Apple employees are invited to these keynotes and generally take up the first several rows of the audience.
- derefr 12y agoI don't think it's the consumers, or the Apple employees, that do this cheering. It's the app developers whose livelihoods depend on the Apple platform. Cheer that your privacy isn't invaded? Nah. Cheer that you built an API that doesn't invade privacy? Nah again. Cheer that you can make an easy no-work guarantee that you won't be invading your user's privacy if you use API X in your app, and that this is a competitive advantage against the apps on other platforms that users have to trust individually? Sure.
- muglug 12y ago"As someone from the UK"? Have you ever been to a football match?
- colinramsay 12y agoYou're comparing a football match to a technology keynote?
- hackaflocka 12y agoWhy is "nothing more sensitive than your medical data"? I don't get it. Is this to do with insurance? But now there's no "prior condition" issue, so why is my medical data still sensitive?
- maudineormsby 12y agoBecause lots of people don't want their medical conditions to be known, due to fear (legitimate and otherwise) of discrimination, being thought less of, or just plain being a private person. I'm not sure nothing is more sensitive than your medical data, but it's definitely sensitive.
- uptown 12y agoSay you have an STD. Do you want to broadcast that to everyone you know? Does your neighbor deserve to know? Do your parents deserve to know? How about your boss? Should a company be able to resell that information to the highest bidder? Medical information is sensitive information.
- Zikes 12y agoI'm not sure which of medical or financial data is considered more sensitive legally, but I think the phrase is mostly about medical data being so inherently personal. It's just meant to invoke an emotional reaction or connection.
- briantmaurer 12y agoMedical data is significantly more sensitive. Financial data says almost nothing about you other than what money you make and how you like to spend it. Medical data discloses your sex, drinking, smoking, drug, and physical habits, along with any mental issues, genetic pre-dispositions, where you live, who your family are, where you have worked, etc. With only a little inference you can get financial information from a person's medical records. TLDR; • Financial records are designed to track accurate exchanges of money. • Medical records are designed to keep an accurate representation of you. The goal is explicitly more personal.
- vidoc 12y agoI wonder how many % of the people in the crowd is wearing Docker pants
- Osmium 12y agoResearchKit is a surprise, and open source too? Go Apple :)
- UweSchmidt 12y agoIn Stallman's days it was about the code. Open source was a form of freedom. Now it's all about the data. Who cares if anyone self-hosts "OpenResearchKit" when a single entity has the health-related data of everyone else?
- Osmium 12y agoFrom the keynote, it's my understanding that Apple doesn't have access to any of your health data. It seems that your data is ultimately stored with whatever organisation is doing the study. They also emphasised that you, yourself, have access to your own data too–which is as it should be.
- UweSchmidt 12y agoDidn't mean to bash Apple, just comment on how the times seem to have changed. Who the hell knows what that other "organization doing the study" does with that data, though. When it will be leaked? How will the future be, will everything be transparent to everyone or will there be the data-haves and the data-have-nots? Instead of "access to my own data" (haha, thanks!), how about "control over my data"? Systems would be designed (on a super low level) so that: - There is a reliable way to delete data from all systems, including caches, backups etc. - People get notified and asked for permission if their data is part of the tupel that could be returned as part of a specific query. Working with personal data would feel like working in a chemical weapons factory. How about that?
- avinassh 12y agoFanless Macbook? I mean, how it is going to handle the heat? Anyone have any idea about this? Current MBPs already heat a lot.
- nhangen 12y agoexactly what I wanted to know.
- c0wb0yc0d3r 12y agoI am not able to watch the actual stream right now, and maybe they covered it there, but I haven't seen mention of a fanless MBP. Apple seems to be rather specific about the way the do everything and what they say. I believe they will begin offering a regular MacBook once again. To make the MacBook fanless, it seems that they have put in a slower processor, ditched spindle drives all together, and most likely opted for integrated graphics. Again, these are just guesses. :)
- glaslong 12y agoThey made a point of it in the stream, saying they pulled it out to save space. The new macbook will be fanless and ventless, and seems to be a return to the mid-line white plastic macbook series.
- avinassh 12y agoYes, they mentioned it - http://www.apple.com/live/2015-mar-event/859988de-489c-47b9-abd5-53bcf4158538/?cid=li-us-859988de-489c-47b9-abd5-53bcf4158538-im http://www.apple.com/live/2015-mar-event/859988de-489c-47b9-...
- c0wb0yc0d3r 12y agoThat says MacBook, not MacBook Pro. What I was getting at is that you are trying to compare MacBooks to MacBook Pros, but I don't know if they made a distinction in the live keynote and left it out on the live feed. From what I can tell, they will be bringing back the MacBook.
- xienze 12y agoWow, whoever did the "artists renderings" of the new MacBook was 100% on the money.
- protomyth 12y agoWell, at least the MacBook does include an esc key. I was a bit worried for all the Vi users during the rumor mockup speculation.
- Shivetya 12y agoI am beginning to think cutting the cord (cable) and all these services out there being available might end up costing more for the little content I actually want. Hopefully the dust will settle and prices stabilize, lower.
- bentcorner 12y agoI cut the cord and use a roku 3. Works great with Netflix, Hulu, and Plex, which handles pretty much everything I want. I like the choice that roku gives me, and doesn't tie me to any specific media store.
- taeric 12y agoAlmost by definition this will happen for a lot of content. Especially if you get a lot of control over where your money goes. The only cheap content would be the content that everyone wants. Which is largely the content everyone claims not to want.
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- sergiotapia 12y agoAm I understanding correctly, that the new macbook air only has 1 USB/charging/video port? ONE SINGLE PORT? That's pretty terrible, it instantly turned me off :(
- brk 12y agoI agree. I bought a new MBA about 5 months ago and I was a little worried I was going to regret that. But after seeing this, I'm glad I didn't wait. I also really don't want to buy yet another whole new set of dongles and adapters.
- mrkickling 12y agoYeah, what are you supposed to do if you want to charge it at the same time as you are using a usb-device? I guess a USB hub, but that is not preferable. :/ However, fewer ports is the future and most devices are available wireless. Furthermore the MBA is not really supposed to be a stationary computer.
- vidoc 12y agoThe way those people view Africa is a huge middle finger to the people who live in this continent.
- ilghiro 12y agoWell there's me done with Safari for another 6 months.
- Shivetya 12y agoOkay, I understand the hard sale, with "feels" and such. However watching Christie running and checking her watch looked so awkward. If anything I would wear it with the face on the inside so that I would not need arm contortions just to view it. However the video was a bit cringe worthy, wearing a display of wealth while "helping" the poor and downtrodden. Combined with the worst of over night advertising phrasing. Yeah, I am not a fan, but this came off way too much late night TV ad style than I what I normally associate with Apple.
- cjslep 12y agoThe Verge liveblog, while having hilarious commentary, mimics your sentiment: > Christy Turlington Burns is running by a giraffe in this video, but she can't see it because she's staring at the coach on her wrist. > Apple has reached the "forced fake Q&A with celebrities" portion of its keynote lifecycle. > I'm just saying that you could put this part of the event directly into any Samsung event, and it would be exactly the same.
- vidoc 12y agoI wonder about the performance of this Apple core-m implementation. All the reviews I have read on PC implementations were catastrophic for performance and disappointing for battery life. 1) battery life: The length of a day for apple is 9/10 hours 2) performance: Lemma, when apple is discreet on one aspect of things, assume the worst. I don't recall hearing anything on the performance of the amazing, all 'new macbook'.
- vidoc 12y agoHow would you characterize the accent of Tim Cook?
- vidoc 12y agoGoogle tells me it's an Alabama accent :D
- kryptiskt 12y agoFrom $10,000? That's going to be a hard sell for a v1.0 that will be obsolete rather fast.
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- ChuckMcM 12y agoI'm really interested to see how this plays out, whether the watch will be another iPad or another Newton.