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The main value prop over the Apple Watch and current Android wear appears to be the battery life. They're advertising over 7 days on a charge, which is certainl

The main value prop over the Apple Watch and current Android wear appears to be the battery life. They're advertising over 7 days on a charge, which is certainly better than whatever the Apple Watch will be in terms of battery life. I just worry about the market for apps after the introduction of apple's watch around the same time.

yurisagalov 12y ago
There's a second value prop: It actually works with Android.
kalindas 12y ago
The Pebble Timeline interface UX might also be better than the Apple Watch app model or the Android Wear card model.
wmeredith 12y ago
Actually, they're saying "up to" 7 days which is obnoxious because that could mean anything.
- nsxwolf 12y ago
  But probably more than the almost-a-day the Apple Watch is likely going to get. Being able to sleep with your watch on most nights of the week is a bigger deal than a lot of people realize.
  - BinaryIdiot 12y ago
    > Being able to sleep with your watch on most nights of the week is a bigger deal than a lot of people realize. This is huge for me and why I wear my FitBit instead of my Moto 360 most of the time. If I can wear it while I sleep I can set multiple alarms to wake me up that do not wake up the spouse or kids and it's less annoying than trying to turn a very loud beeping off.
  - djim 12y ago
    personally, i don't like wearing my watch when i sleep.
    - nsxwolf 12y ago
      There's still the drag of having to remember to recharge it every night, even if you're taking it off. I experience this now that I've gone from the XBox 360 to the PS4. The XBox 360 battery lasted what seemed like forever. I would go a week or two without even thinking of plugging it in to charge. The PS4 controller battery life is so bad you have to plug it back in every time you're done playing. I've had many people say "what's the big deal, just plug it in, are you lazy or what", but it is noticeably irritating.
      - Dylan16807 12y ago
        PS3 controller also lasts forever. It's weird how much they regressed on that front. But it glows!
- freehunter 12y ago
  There is literally no way they could say "at least" with any number that would mean anything to anyone. Even if they did a range between worst case scenario (app refreshing as often as possible and running the CPU and Bluetooth radios 100%) to best case scenario (watch face that updates once per hour), would you really want to see a number that says "Between 5 minutes and 7 days of battery life!"? You can't really even have a "under normal use" battery life claim. My Pebble lasts between 4-5 days depending on app usage. Other have theirs lasting 2-3 days. My personal iPhone sometimes needs to be recharged in the middle of the day. My work iPhone gets charged once every three days. "Up to 7 days" is the most meaningful number they could put there, because it shows you what to expect while using it as a watch. Everything else is up to you.
AndrewDucker 12y ago
My current Pebble works for four days without any problems. Frequently longer. So if they can increase that to 7 days and I can charge once per week then I'll be even happier. But largely I like the idea of a colour one.
- Rudism 12y ago
  They advertised "up to 7 days" of battery for the original pebble, too.
  - bryanlarsen 12y ago
    Which translates into about 4 days of heavy use, and over 12 days of no use. I once misplaced my Pebble, and found it 12 days later, and it was still running.
georgeecollins 12y ago
ePaper is very different than the displays that are in the Apple Watch and various Wear devices. You can see it in bright sunlight. It can be a big drawback, particularly for a fitness device, to need to shade your display to read it.
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jkestner 12y ago
Which is probably why they're de-emphasizing apps (which I agree with from a UX standpoint) and emphasizing ease of developing from the web. If you hone your use cases, developing for Pebble doesn't have to be as complicated as apps. It amounts to rich push notifications, or perhaps Twitter Cards.

yurisagalov 12y ago

There's a second value prop: It actually works with Android.

kalindas 12y ago

The Pebble Timeline interface UX might also be better than the Apple Watch app model or the Android Wear card model.

wmeredith 12y ago

Actually, they're saying "up to" 7 days which is obnoxious because that could mean anything.

nsxwolf 12y ago
But probably more than the almost-a-day the Apple Watch is likely going to get. Being able to sleep with your watch on most nights of the week is a bigger deal than a lot of people realize.
- BinaryIdiot 12y ago
  > Being able to sleep with your watch on most nights of the week is a bigger deal than a lot of people realize. This is huge for me and why I wear my FitBit instead of my Moto 360 most of the time. If I can wear it while I sleep I can set multiple alarms to wake me up that do not wake up the spouse or kids and it's less annoying than trying to turn a very loud beeping off.
- djim 12y ago
  personally, i don't like wearing my watch when i sleep.
  - nsxwolf 12y ago
    There's still the drag of having to remember to recharge it every night, even if you're taking it off. I experience this now that I've gone from the XBox 360 to the PS4. The XBox 360 battery lasted what seemed like forever. I would go a week or two without even thinking of plugging it in to charge. The PS4 controller battery life is so bad you have to plug it back in every time you're done playing. I've had many people say "what's the big deal, just plug it in, are you lazy or what", but it is noticeably irritating.
    - Dylan16807 12y ago
      PS3 controller also lasts forever. It's weird how much they regressed on that front. But it glows!
freehunter 12y ago
There is literally no way they could say "at least" with any number that would mean anything to anyone. Even if they did a range between worst case scenario (app refreshing as often as possible and running the CPU and Bluetooth radios 100%) to best case scenario (watch face that updates once per hour), would you really want to see a number that says "Between 5 minutes and 7 days of battery life!"? You can't really even have a "under normal use" battery life claim. My Pebble lasts between 4-5 days depending on app usage. Other have theirs lasting 2-3 days. My personal iPhone sometimes needs to be recharged in the middle of the day. My work iPhone gets charged once every three days. "Up to 7 days" is the most meaningful number they could put there, because it shows you what to expect while using it as a watch. Everything else is up to you.

AndrewDucker 12y ago

My current Pebble works for four days without any problems. Frequently longer. So if they can increase that to 7 days and I can charge once per week then I'll be even happier. But largely I like the idea of a colour one.

Rudism 12y ago
They advertised "up to 7 days" of battery for the original pebble, too.
- bryanlarsen 12y ago
  Which translates into about 4 days of heavy use, and over 12 days of no use. I once misplaced my Pebble, and found it 12 days later, and it was still running.

georgeecollins 12y ago

ePaper is very different than the displays that are in the Apple Watch and various Wear devices. You can see it in bright sunlight. It can be a big drawback, particularly for a fitness device, to need to shade your display to read it.

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jkestner 12y ago

Which is probably why they're de-emphasizing apps (which I agree with from a UX standpoint) and emphasizing ease of developing from the web. If you hone your use cases, developing for Pebble doesn't have to be as complicated as apps. It amounts to rich push notifications, or perhaps Twitter Cards.