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I realize this is off topic, but I take serious issue with the statement that "Nevada is the entertainment capital of the world."

by wittekm 12y ago

bhauer 12y ago
What would you say is the entertainment capital of the world? I live in Los Angeles, and at one time in the past I would have associated this city with entertainment. But it's been many years since our business climate was especially amenable to film and television production; now much of what we used to do here is done out of state, in Canada, or overseas.
- porsupah 12y ago
  I suppose it depends on how you'd even define something like that - headquarters, production, shooting, effects.. it's all so distributed now. Consider SohoNet's reach, as a network provider that specialises in high capacity connections to studios, effects houses, et al: http://www.sohonet.com/our-global-reach/ http://www.sohonet.com/our-global-reach/ That said, I'd wager you could ask people around the world, and they'd still say "Hollywood", though plenty of folk are, I'd imagine, aware of Vancouver's popularity for doubling as many US cities, Pinewood Studios, and WETA.
- prawn 12y ago
  If Vegas matters, Macau has 6x the gambling. Not sure about floor shows or film/TV/games.
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grecy 12y ago
> I take serious issue with the statement that "Nevada is the entertainment capital of the world." I wouldn't worry about it, Americans are notorious for saying "world" when they mean "country", because they're usually not thinking about anything or anyone outside their borders.
- tokenadult 12y ago
  Americans are notorious for saying "world" when they mean "country", because they're usually not thinking about anything or anyone outside their borders. You write like someone who has not been to Las Vegas, Nevada as recently as I have. When you write something like that, I wonder where you have been in the world. I was in Las Vegas for the first time since the 1980s just more than a year ago, to meet up with high school classmates of my wife--who attended high school in Taiwan. The classmates we met were not the only Chinese-speaking visitors we encountered who had just flown across the Pacific to be in Las Vegas, not by far. I actually don't have a particular place in mind as I read the phrase "entertainment capital of the world," but I'm not sure I would say off-hand that there is any place that outranks one city or another in the United States for that designation. The United States is, after all, second only to France in the number of international tourist visitors it receives each year, and at least some of the tourists who come here come for entertainment of one kind or another. Many consumers of mass media entertainment in other parts of the world consume quite a lot of entertainment that is produced in the United States (although not so much that is produced in Nevada, methinks, as contrasted with California or New York). In the context of the article kindly submitted here to open the thread, it is clear that Musk could have written "gaming capital of the world" (that's the Nevada way of saying it) or "legalized gambling capital of the world" (that's how I'd say it, to be clear what kind of "gaming" is being written about), and then he would have been both more coherent with the point he was making and less likely to cause topic drift like the topic drift found in the subthread here. His argument is that a state that regulates a lot of gambling knows how to bet wisely in its state regulations. AFTER EDIT: Hat tip to the other participant in this same subthread who pointed out that Las Vegas uses the term "entertainment capital of the world" as a promotional slogan.[1] But people outside Las Vegas refer to Los Angeles with that designation.[2] [1] http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/may/15/evolution-worlds-entertainment-capital/ http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/may/15/evolution-worlds... [2] http://www.todayszaman.com/travel_los-angeles-entertainment-capital-of-the-world_332513.html http://www.todayszaman.com/travel_los-angeles-entertainment-... http://www.forbes.com/places/ca/los-angeles/ http://www.forbes.com/places/ca/los-angeles/ http://www.columbiawestcollege.edu/featured/hello-world/ http://www.columbiawestcollege.edu/featured/hello-world/
  - 12y ago
adventured 12y ago
You realize that the city of Las Vegas calls itself "The Entertainment Capital of the World," right? Musk didn't just invent that slogan, it's what Vegas uses. And that's very likely where he borrowed it. Is it true? Even if it's not, Vegas isn't wildly off the mark. It's one of the top entertainment capitals in the world.
MrLeap 12y ago
What's a better candidate for world entertainment capital? Dubai? Maybe they have taller/more entertainment buildings? I seem to recall adultery, premarital cohabitation, having a shared bank account with a woman you're not married to, and looking at a woman will get your hands chopped off or some such nonsense. That kind of takes it out of the running for me personally. I'm genuinely curious.
tokenadult 12y ago
As I just wrote in this same thread,[1] Musk's argument is based on the idea that Nevada is experienced in regulating gambling, which it is. So perhaps he should written "Nevada is the legalized gambling capital of the world," and then you would have nothing to take issue with in this statement by Musk. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8644011 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8644011
smsm42 12y ago
Nothing's wrong with a bit of flattery, esp. after getting a billion-size deal from Nevada.

I realize this is off topic, but I take serious issue with the statement that "Nevada is the entertainment capital of the world."

by wittekm 12y ago

I realize this is off topic, but I take serious issue with the statement that "Nevada is the entertainment capital of the world."

bhauer 12y ago

What would you say is the entertainment capital of the world? I live in Los Angeles, and at one time in the past I would have associated this city with entertainment. But it's been many years since our business climate was especially amenable to film and television production; now much of what we used to do here is done out of state, in Canada, or overseas.

porsupah 12y ago
I suppose it depends on how you'd even define something like that - headquarters, production, shooting, effects.. it's all so distributed now. Consider SohoNet's reach, as a network provider that specialises in high capacity connections to studios, effects houses, et al: http://www.sohonet.com/our-global-reach/ http://www.sohonet.com/our-global-reach/ That said, I'd wager you could ask people around the world, and they'd still say "Hollywood", though plenty of folk are, I'd imagine, aware of Vancouver's popularity for doubling as many US cities, Pinewood Studios, and WETA.
prawn 12y ago
If Vegas matters, Macau has 6x the gambling. Not sure about floor shows or film/TV/games.

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grecy 12y ago

> I take serious issue with the statement that "Nevada is the entertainment capital of the world." I wouldn't worry about it, Americans are notorious for saying "world" when they mean "country", because they're usually not thinking about anything or anyone outside their borders.

tokenadult 12y ago
Americans are notorious for saying "world" when they mean "country", because they're usually not thinking about anything or anyone outside their borders. You write like someone who has not been to Las Vegas, Nevada as recently as I have. When you write something like that, I wonder where you have been in the world. I was in Las Vegas for the first time since the 1980s just more than a year ago, to meet up with high school classmates of my wife--who attended high school in Taiwan. The classmates we met were not the only Chinese-speaking visitors we encountered who had just flown across the Pacific to be in Las Vegas, not by far. I actually don't have a particular place in mind as I read the phrase "entertainment capital of the world," but I'm not sure I would say off-hand that there is any place that outranks one city or another in the United States for that designation. The United States is, after all, second only to France in the number of international tourist visitors it receives each year, and at least some of the tourists who come here come for entertainment of one kind or another. Many consumers of mass media entertainment in other parts of the world consume quite a lot of entertainment that is produced in the United States (although not so much that is produced in Nevada, methinks, as contrasted with California or New York). In the context of the article kindly submitted here to open the thread, it is clear that Musk could have written "gaming capital of the world" (that's the Nevada way of saying it) or "legalized gambling capital of the world" (that's how I'd say it, to be clear what kind of "gaming" is being written about), and then he would have been both more coherent with the point he was making and less likely to cause topic drift like the topic drift found in the subthread here. His argument is that a state that regulates a lot of gambling knows how to bet wisely in its state regulations. AFTER EDIT: Hat tip to the other participant in this same subthread who pointed out that Las Vegas uses the term "entertainment capital of the world" as a promotional slogan.[1] But people outside Las Vegas refer to Los Angeles with that designation.[2] [1] http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/may/15/evolution-worlds-entertainment-capital/ http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/may/15/evolution-worlds... [2] http://www.todayszaman.com/travel_los-angeles-entertainment-capital-of-the-world_332513.html http://www.todayszaman.com/travel_los-angeles-entertainment-... http://www.forbes.com/places/ca/los-angeles/ http://www.forbes.com/places/ca/los-angeles/ http://www.columbiawestcollege.edu/featured/hello-world/ http://www.columbiawestcollege.edu/featured/hello-world/
- 12y ago

adventured 12y ago

You realize that the city of Las Vegas calls itself "The Entertainment Capital of the World," right? Musk didn't just invent that slogan, it's what Vegas uses. And that's very likely where he borrowed it. Is it true? Even if it's not, Vegas isn't wildly off the mark. It's one of the top entertainment capitals in the world.

MrLeap 12y ago

What's a better candidate for world entertainment capital? Dubai? Maybe they have taller/more entertainment buildings? I seem to recall adultery, premarital cohabitation, having a shared bank account with a woman you're not married to, and looking at a woman will get your hands chopped off or some such nonsense. That kind of takes it out of the running for me personally. I'm genuinely curious.

tokenadult 12y ago

As I just wrote in this same thread,[1] Musk's argument is based on the idea that Nevada is experienced in regulating gambling, which it is. So perhaps he should written "Nevada is the legalized gambling capital of the world," and then you would have nothing to take issue with in this statement by Musk. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8644011 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8644011

smsm42 12y ago

Nothing's wrong with a bit of flattery, esp. after getting a billion-size deal from Nevada.