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Poll: For your startup, do you use Django, Rails, PHP or Other?
Just ran into this poll (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=750142) that was made 5 years ago. And I am very interested to see if anything has been changed.
- x0x0 12y agowe use pyramid
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- fjordinbork 12y agoPython / Tornado
- cgcardona 12y agoSinatra as well as rails
- aspir 12y agoWe have Ruby, Python, Go, C, Node, Perl, Backbone and maybe a few others I'm not remembering right now. When you're building distributed systems, you pick the right tool for the job. Edit: And Assembly: http://youtu.be/zrSvoQz1GOs?t=15m44s http://youtu.be/zrSvoQz1GOs?t=15m44s I'd actually recommend the entire talk.
- Kiro 12y agoStill, why so many different? Must be really messy.
- aspir 12y agoIt definitely can be, since it's an infrastructural distributed system, but it's all unix when you break it down.
- alexgartrell 12y agoYou can't just throw out a platitude like "it's all unix when you break it down." That doesn't actually make any sense. When you use a bunch of different languages the primary difficulty you run into is interop. Some languages work well together by default and interop is easy, but this is almost never the case. Generally you're stuck making the decision between easy interop (RESTful APIs or your favorite RPC framework) and fast interop (JNI, swig, etc.). So how do you guys actually deal with interop, other than to limit the need for it?
- clubhi 12y agoAre you guys building a business or just trying to have fun?
- aspir 12y agoWe're doing all right: www.fastly.com/customers
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- mindcrime 12y agoWe mainly use Grails for webapps. Most of our code is Groovy with a smattering of Java here and there, + some Javascript in the front-end.
- tbrock 12y agoNice to see some Django. I had to move away from it and towards flask and rails since it was basically abandonware for years. I'm glad they are moving forward and that the project is hosted on GitHub now.
- sfeng 12y agoGo / Postgres / Angular
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- brandonhsiao 12y agoI'm surprised this isn't more popular: Python/web.py
- cdmckay 12y agoScala / Play / Postgres / Angular
- lclarkmichalek 12y agoHaskell / Scotty
- codygman 12y agoCare to give anymore details? Tips on using this approach? Problems? Advantages? What do you think of mflow?
- lclarkmichalek 12y agoWell, I mostly do client side templating, so most of my functions end up being (ToJSON a) => ScottyT a, which simplifies matters. Problems: not thrilled with the error handling, I prefer using Either rather than the out of band exception stuff Scotty seems to use. However, it's Haskell, so I can almost always write a small function to do what I want. For example, param is :: (Read a) => String -> ScottyT a, and throws an exception if the param does not exist. It is trivial for me to write a function paramM :: (Read a) => String -> ScottyT (Maybe a), so the original problem is not significant. Never used mflow, looks interesting, but I wouldn't use it.
- TylerE 12y agoOld stuff: Python/Django New development: Python/Pyramid
- arthursilva 12y agoAny thoughts on Django vs Pyramid?
- TylerE 12y agoDjango is just old-fashioned, frankly. It's stuck somewhere around 2005 or so. Pyramid allows you to use current best-of-breed in the Python ecosystem (SQLAlchemy, etc)
- jrbaldwin 12y agoNode, Mongo, Angular
- kev009 12y agoScala / Play / Postgres
- stevekemp 12y agoPerl. CGI::Application + FastCGI.
- TheAlchemist 12y agoPython / Django
- downstream1960 12y agoMeteor / Meteorite
- girvo 12y agoPHP with Laravel, node.js and angular.
- randallsquared 12y agoGo / Postgres / React & Fluxxor Edit: forgot to mention go-tigertonic. :)
- brotchie 12y agoNode.js / Express / Postgres / React & Fluxxor Really enjoying the Flux design pattern + declarative nature of React. I've been applying the Flux pattern to other applications (iOS) with great successful. The goal of one-way data flow and a single touch point for application events is a radical tool for complexity reduction.
- swah 12y agoI'm trying to use Go+React and had not heard about Fluxxor. How do those (Golang and Fluxxor which is based on Node) fit together in your system? Are you using a Node or Go frontend?
- randallsquared 12y agoWe're using Fluxxor on the client, not the server. It uses node for installation infrastructure, but after you bundle it up it's just another JS library to import with require.js (or whatever; it's agnostic about such things).
- glis 12y agoI just looked at Fluxxor and AngularJS. They use the exact same TodoList example in their quickstart guides. Turns out that AngularJS is simpler and easier to understand.
- turrini 12y agoC++/Qt + FastCGI
- mrsteveman1 12y agoInteresting to see, what sort of applications?
- turrini 12y agoERP and multimedia streaming applications
- deleted 12y ago[deleted]
- jeroen 12y ago.NET , because that's what I have lots of experience with.
- mmgutz 12y agonode.js / postgres / vue.js Moving some of the API stuff to Go
- ramigb 12y agoFor my own startup i used RoR, for freelancing clients i use Ruby/RoR, Node.js/Express/Sails, PHP/CodeIgniter.
- jamespitts 12y agoNode.js
- mjehanzeb 12y agoPython / Django
- clubhi 12y agoJava Spring / Angular / Postgres/ Storm
- Oculus 12y agoNode.js/ExpressJS/AngularJS/PostgreSQL
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- kraih 12y agoPerl / Mojolicious
- peterwiese 12y agoOLD: PHP/CAKE/BACKBONE NEW: NODE/EXPRESS/ANGULAR
- steffan 12y agoScala / Play (and Spray) / Postgres Starting to use Angular, experimenting with Akka / Spray
- mschuster91 12y agoPHP/nginx + MySQL, and a fully custom-built framework on top of PHP.
- cweagans 12y agoCustom-built framework: Why?
- mschuster91 12y agoCost of migration to anything considered "hipster" these days.
- JasonCEC 12y agoWe use R and Shiny server pro for our back-end. It's hosted on AWS EB with our static site on S3. We love it - the data scientists can write and push features directly, and everything (including our API's) are easily maintainable in R. I've been shouting the praise of R and it's usefulness as a production ready language for a long time. Contact me with questions about data science, start ups, or R - if you have a data backed start up, R + Shiny is the way to go.
- btreecat 12y agoLast time I checked out shiny (about 8-12 months ago) it was still useless beyond the most trivial examples. Building an actual website that would be public facing seemed like a horrid idea at the time. Have they really come that far in such a short time? Personally if I wanted to use R I could just interface with it from another language (Python, .Net, Java etc.) I haven't played enough with R recently to make an informed opinion on the current quality of its network libs and framework stack however it seems like an interesting gamble (that's paying off for you all?) given where the focus of the R community has been (statistical programming rather than general use) and statements on the front page of "No web development skills are required."
- JasonCEC 12y agoShiny has a full time team working startup hours on it - it's out of beta and has enterprise support (Shiny server pro). It's come a long way to put it mildly; and we've never had a problem using it in production. We could interface R with another language if we needed to... but we're a data-science company, and unlike many other co's or startups out there, we hire data-scientists who write features and applications directly. R makes this possible. We have an Android App as part of our services - we use RServe as the API interface so we can call R functions from the App. To your other point - web development skills are most definitely required, as are good engineering practices, and a stable stack. Shiny is just like any other framework; it takes a range of skills to create an application people want to use and pay for.
- monk_e_boy 12y agoUse PHP Laravel Angular at work. Rails for personal projects. If I were to start a new project Node + Angular I expect
- npalli 12y agoNo iOS or Android? I would have thought the biggest change in the last five years (since you last conducted the survey) would have been the massive increase in startups working in mobile.
- gkoberger 12y agoIn this situation, iOS or Android would be more of a front end -- you'd still (usually) need one of the stacks in the poll. Using iOS or Android doesn't nullify this poll any more than using Angular or jQuery does.
- deleted 12y ago[deleted]
- devmerc 12y agoglad to see some Symfony users on HN
- poutine 12y agoStarted with Rails & Node, moved much of Node to Go, introduced Angular and deprecating Rails where we can and moving the remaining Node to Go.
- wldcordeiro 12y agoAt work I've been working primarily with Ruby on Rails, but for personal projects and my fledgling startup, I'm using Django with Ember.js in the frontend.
- agmartin 12y agoPython/Pyramid
- chops 12y agoErlang with the Nitrogen Web Framework (http://nitrogenproject.com http://nitrogenproject.com) Also, a future project I've been kicking around will likely be done with Erlang and ChicagoBoss (http://chicagoboss.org http://chicagoboss.org) - not because Nitrogen is lacking, just in the name of mastering another framework with a different focus.
- zamio 12y agoScala / finatra / Backbone / postgres
- tinco 12y agoRuby + Grape / Polymer + CoffeeScript on the frontend with MySQL, MongoDB and Carbon as databases, using RabbitMQ to hook it all up. Right tool for the job with some legacy. There's an old school Rails project and some Python as well. We use docker to make provisioning on Linux development machines less painful, vagrant/Capistrano + chef for the ops.
- Killah911 12y agoDoes Flask go under other?
- hanley 12y agoFlask is Python so it would fall under 'etc' on Python / Django, etc.
- gusfoo 12y agoPython + Django for the bulk of things. But also Perl and C++. Some tools are more suitable for tasks than others.
- weslly 12y agoPython / Flask
- deepsun 12y agoJava (Jersey, Jackson, Guice) on Google App Engine.
- dllthomas 12y agoHaskell / Yesod
- minikomi 12y agoCare to go into more detail? How are you handling storage, deployment, frontend. How useful are Shakespearean templates?
- dllthomas 12y agoWell, I've a couple projects on Yesod, with some variation, but I'll focus on the one that has users outside my family. Storage is Postgres; deployment is some overly specific (and slightly too manual) scripts I put together before Keter was mature (and haven't touched since); front end is mostly flat HTML generated from Hamlet (or markdown, through pandoc), gussied up with some JS where appropriate, but definitely more of a progressive-enhancement approach than a single page app. With regards to Shakespearean templates, the languages for JS and CSS (Julius and Cassius/Lucius) are - in practice - of only mild use on their own. Hamlet is a bigger win - and, in particular, the ability to package up all three into a single widget to be embedded in arbitrary Hamlet, is great. And all the type safety is a nice bonus. One thing it does need is more exhaustive documentation - I don't think there's anywhere that actually specifies the "embed tag attributes from this list" or "generate a URL with parameters" sigils, save the source and mailing list. What documentation does exist is pretty solid, mind you, there's just some omissions.
- minikomi 12y agoThanks for the reply. I've done a cursory run through of the "book", and wondered how close it was to an actual use of the framework in development.
- graycat 12y ago.NET
- electrotype 12y agoJava / Guice / PostgreSQL and.... a custom framework!
- visualR 12y agoGroovy/Grails here.
- adamzegelin 12y agonginx Postgres, Cassandra RabbitMQ, Python (some backend services), Java (Jersey, MyBatis, Guice, + a lot of custom stuff) Angular
- alasdair_ 12y agoWe are using java. our crawlers are heavily threaded and we wanted somethi g that was both efficient and ran on app engine if needed.
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- johnlim5847 12y agoMongodb/ExpressJS/AngularJS/NodeJS
- kyriakos 12y agoglad to see i'm not the only one using PHP. reading HN sometimes give you the impression that PHP is only used by dinosaurs
- arisAlexis 12y agoJava Rest backend FTW! (No Spring!)
- kirang1989 12y agoPython/Flask