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Google I/O 2014
- kyrra 12y agoDirect link to the Keynote youtube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys
- dublinben 12y agoOddly, their live streaming does not work without Adobe Flash. It absolutely refuses to load anything in Chromium, even though it supports every single HTML5 format that YouTube offers. I would have expected better from Google in 2014.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoHTML5 doesn't support live streaming [1]. You need either Flash or HLS support (i.e. iOS/Safari). Disclaimer: I work in the video space. [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21921790/best-approach-to-real-time-http-streaming-to-html5-video-client http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21921790/best-approach-to...
- dublinben 12y agoLive streaming is possible with WebRTC, as sites like Appear.in demonstrate. It might not literally be "HTML5" but it isn't Flash.
- rockdoe 12y agoHTML5 doesn't support live streaming That's a very bad way of stating it. It's perfectly possible, and "supported" even though there is no "use this thing" solution for it. The problem is that you can't rely on a full solution being usable by all browsers you want to target.
- joezydeco 12y agoAereo (RIP) streamed live television over HTML5.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoLet's not write them off yet. As I've posted in the other HN thread about them, they just need to pivot.
- chris_mahan 12y agoWe need http-streaming in html5 VLC supports it, why not the browsers?
- 0x006A 12y agoYou can do WebM live streaming.
- x0054 12y agoWhy hasn't HLS caught on more broadly? From what I know it's not licensed / patented by apple. Many Flash players implement it, and overall its a great way of delivering video over HTTP.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoIts encumbered by being an Apple standard (NIH). Adobe is pushing HDS, and Google is pushing an open standard called MPEG-DASH. They all do the same thing fundamentally; the only differences are slight technical details and who is in control of the standard.
- makomk 12y agoIt appears to have interoperability issues. The Apple livestreams certainly never seem to play reliably in non-Apple HLS clients.
- micampe 12y agoI’m watching it in Safari without Flash installed.
- rockdoe 12y agoI'm guessing the problem is that it's encoded in H264, which isn't available in Chromium due to patents.
- dublinben 12y agoChromium can definitely play H.264 with no problem. All three videos on this page[0] play perfectly, as do all other HTML5 YouTube videos.[1] [0]http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/graphics/videoformatsupport/default.html http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/graphics/videoformatsuppor... [1]https://www.youtube.com/html5 https://www.youtube.com/html5 - This shows 6/6
- rockdoe 12y agoI'm a bit shocked that this works even on Debian. I don't understand how it is possible without Debian violating the patents.
- keeperofdakeys 12y agoChromium uses ffmpeg to decode h264. In fact, they even include ffmepg in the chromium source tarball.
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- oxalo 12y agoOh man they've added 5000 API calls. That's 1000 more than iOS 8. Guess Google wins.
- smrtinsert 12y agoGoogle already won so no big deal.
- oxalo 12y agoLove the downvotes, but I was just trying to show how silly numbers like that are. What does '5000 API calls' even mean?
- 72deluxe 12y agoMaybe they've added Getters and Setters for every private variable, via a macro (to save typing)? That will certainly mean many more API functions to call. Or are they counting how many times they make calls to a part of the API? Like calling a function in a for loop or something? Either way, I'll applaud unnecessarily. EDIT: Thanks for the downvotes! Here's to humour on HN!
- ChikkaChiChi 12y agoAndroid has completely leapfrogged iOS in every way...including design.
- eliben 12y agoCompetition is healthy and users are the biggest winner :)
- afro88 12y agoThis is the first version that's made me reconsider iOS's dominance when it comes to design and usability. Wow.
- ulyssesgrant 12y agoA lot of these design cues are already present in iOS, especially the importance of depth on emphasizing content and interactive elements
- xienze 12y agoThe problem is, it'll take years before more than Google apps and high-profile apps make use of this new design. It's sort of like the story today... there's still a good number of apps sporting the 2.3 look. So when this new release comes out you can look forward to a couple apps having the new look and feel, most apps having the 4.0 look and feel, and a decent number having the 2.3 look and feel.
- dublinben 12y agoThat's not Google's fault though. That falls to the lazy 3rd party developers who can't be bothered to follow the OS design guidelines in any timely manner.
- xienze 12y agoIt is Google's fault! They've completely revamped their UI what, three times by now? And that's not even considering the minor tweaks, like 2.3 going to a black and green scheme. Couple that with the fact that it takes a good two years before the latest Android version is on a majority of devices and it's no wonder why devs throw their hands up when faced with having to support potentially three sets of UI look and feel guidelines at any given time.
- basicallydan 12y agoI was extremely disappointed when they started talking about "Material Design", hinting at tactile screens by showing what one might look like, and then going on to talk about it as a metaphor for tactility. Still looks nice, but that was mean.
- jaxytee 12y agoYeah, all this design talk is grossly underwhelming.
- psbp 12y agoIt's great design, but I got really excited for a new screen technology.
- boomzilla 12y agoIs it me, or the new design looks like Windows Metro?
- aroch 12y agoThey took the shapes and layout of Metro and the color palette of iOS7/8
- hackinthebochs 12y agoGoogle is just shameless when it comes to android. It's entire history has been one of "me too".
- VikingCoder 12y agoEverything after Douglas Engelbart's Mother of All Demos has been shameless "me too". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zz1SwCTCEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zz1SwCTCEE
- atonse 12y agoI can't get past that particular camera angle in the video where they catch the heads of people walking out. I understand there are thousands of people there but that particular camera makes it look like a bunch of people are leaving as the speaker speaks.
- gregr401 12y agoYes! It's driving me crazy as well.
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- Cakez0r 12y agoIncredibly annoying! Surely there's another walkway that doesn't pass right through the camera shot!
- yellow 12y agoBeing an attendee from last year, I can guarantee you that it's people still filing in to find seats well into the presentation. The exit is towards the back left of where the camera is. People going to the right are looking for seats. It's still not an attractive angle.
- uptown 12y agoOne of the features Apple added later-on to iOS7 was "reduce animation" after user feedback. Much of Google's keynote thus-far has focused on adding animations everywhere possible. It'll be interesting to see if they receive a different reception.
- jhenkens 12y agoI can't use iOS7 without reduced animated. I'm very happy they have that feature.
- MaxDPS 12y agoYou can (very easily) reduce the animation speed within android.
- mycookie 12y agoReducing animation speed does not solve the problem. Too many animations can be distracting for me (kwin), increasing animation speed does not remove the distractions.
- sgarman 12y agoI think we are putting the cart before the horse here. Let's see if this actually becomes a problem. There is such a limited amount of purposeful animation that happens right now. I imagine adding well thought animations would be nice. Check out the material guide on it: http://www.google.com/design/spec/animation/authentic-motion.html http://www.google.com/design/spec/animation/authentic-motion...
- xienze 12y agoI think there's something to be said for not completely overhauling the look and feel of the OS every two years or so. As it stands today a typical Android phone probably has at least one app sporting the Android 2.3 look and feel. And even in Google's UI guidelines (not sure if it's still the case), they suggested providing multiple sets of icons, some that follow the 4.0 look and feel, some that follow the 2.3 look and feel, some that follow the pre-2.3 look and feel, etc. They make it very difficult to both follow their latest UI guidelines and the older ones (because adoption rates lag quite a bit).
- thrownaway2424 12y agoThe problem seems to be that Google doesn't have any real design rules, they just have designers, and these guys rotate in and out every year or two, bringing their own pet ideas with them. So what you're looking at is whatever the designer they hired two years ago had on his mind. Android is rife with clear evidence that the project has no design guidelines. All of the UIs change completely in every release.
- xienze 12y agoThat's a good point. I think the other part of the problem is that Android demonstrates what happens when you let developers run wild, as much as it pains me to say that. As developers we always want new, new, new! Rip out the old stuff! But we don't always think about the consequences that has on customers. Or I should say, in a typical company you quickly learn that you can't just change things on a whim. Google is not typical though...
- radley 12y agoThat's absurd. Matías has been with Google since 2010. The look and feel has changed, but it's more evolution that whimsy. Mobile is the most competitive market on the planet right now. Eye candy is essential to showing growth and momentum. Most people aren't looking under the hood, particularly now that hardware specs are leveling off.
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- i_have_to_speak 12y agoWish the speakers wouldn't look so nervous.. of course all that flicker and frame drops during the unreal demo didn't help.
- currysausage 12y agoAnybody knows what these protests were about?
- psbp 12y agoShe mentioned being evicted, so probably housing.
- lukasm 12y agoSF housing problem. Why do they protest at Google? It's the local government fault. Let Google and the rest build some flats.
- yulaow 12y agohttp://thenextweb.com/google/2014/06/25/google-io-2014-interrupted-protester-calling-google-develop-conscience/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheNextWeb+%28The+Next+Web+All+Stories%29 http://thenextweb.com/google/2014/06/25/google-io-2014-inter...
- bsimpson 12y agoI wish the press would stop feeding the pigeons.
- swalsh 12y agoWhat is the deal with these protesters?
- pohl 12y agoHere's one article... http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/23599/20140625/google-i-o-2014-protester-keynote-interrupted-occupy.htm http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/23599/20140625/google-...
- semerda 12y agoWas that frame skipping when they showed the 3D game demo? aka. Apple Metal
- valarauca1 12y agoFrame Skipping has been around for decades, Apple Metal didn't invent it.
- semerda 12y agoWasn't saying Apple invented it. I was asking 1. whether it was frame skipping (confirmed now) and 2. Apple Metal reference is for those that remember how well their demo went of their engine.
- akilism 12y agofeel like its not enough work on the battery life.
- pohl 12y agoThey did mention a new development tool that looks like the Energy Impact view in Xcode (sorry, I can't remember what Google called it, does anybody remember?) They said something like "if you can't measure it, you can't improve it", which is the right philosophy. It just may take another year to see a payoff.
- techwizrd 12y agoThe feature they previewed was called Battery Historian. According to the presenter, there should a be a definitive improvement in battery life for the Android "L" release. They've been using it to optimize Android and the Google apps. Hopefully people will no longer have to use all sorts of crazy hacks to because they suspect Maps/Location services is causing wakelocks.
- bane 12y ago"Google's Sundar Pichai said, adding that it was "designed for form factors beyond mobile."" "ART: ... Truly cross platform: ARM, x86, MIPS" Sounds like they may be setting up to make a proper run at the desktop market? Now that all these Windows 8 machines are out there with cheap touch panels, it's shown that cheap desktop/laptop computers can exist with the necessary interface bits to work. edit:and watches and cars apparently
- Zigurd 12y agoIt's hard to ascribe a whole lot of meaning to "designed for form factors beyond mobile" because mobile battery powered compiling is the most demanding case. I suppose it means they can scale compilers for ART across plugged-in, big battery, and small battery cases. Dalvik, and Dalvik's JIT compiler are definitely tuned for small batteries.
- kryps 12y agoTuned how? By being slow as f..k? That actually makes it much worse for small batteries.
- Zigurd 12y agoDalvik claims to be twice as fast interpreting DEX compared to Java bytecode interpretation. The Dalvik JIT compiler focuses on critical sections of code. There's a reason you don't see Hotspot on battery powered devices. Large amounts of the Android framework, especially the foundations of drawing and the View hierarchy, are in C or C++. Compiling an interactive app to native code makes much less difference in performance than a synthetic benchmark of DEX interpretation might lead one to think.
- pohl 12y agoThe Dalvik JIT compiler focuses on critical sections of code. There's a reason you don't see Hotspot on battery powered devices. Hotspot get its name from the term of art for a critical section of code, though. That's not something that makes them different from each other; it's what they have in common. What separates them must be that only one of them was designed with a power budget in mind.
- pohl 12y agoWe should all endeavor to guard the memory of the double-sided peanut butter jar, lost in a tragic speech recognition accident on June 25, 2014.
- ChikkaChiChi 12y agoI feel the Google Watches are going to be more widely adopted than Glass. Maybe we'll get to head mounted computers in the future, but right now it definitely feels like the watch is the next step in social acceptability. Source: I own a Glass and barely wear it.
- dag11 12y agoI also own Google Glass and barely wear it anymore. When Wear was announced, I was (and still am) super excited, because except for the camera, it has all the features I use Glass for, and more!
- alttab 12y agoAnd it might actually be reliable instead of standing in public saying "OK Glass" three times like an asshole to get the thing to respond. Oh yeah, and how we aren't getting upgraded to the 2GB version even though I paid $1,600 for it during their "one day sale." Its almost like Google is trying to kill Glass. That'll show me to walk around outside like a tool, defending Google as I wear Glass.
- turnip1979 12y agoI also have Glass and it is a similar paperweight for me. I'm a bit more skeptical about the watch since (a) companies have released smart watches in the past, and (b) I'm skeptical about the use cases tackled by Android Wear.
- peterchon 12y agobut don't you think that someone staring at their watch during a conversation (or even in large meeting) is quite rude and distracting?
- peterchon 12y agosure you can turn it off, but wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose?
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- NDizzle 12y agoAm I not in on the joke? Here's a magic 8 ball prediction: wearable stuff will bomb. All they can do is tell me if I walked or not. I KNOW IF I WALKED OR NOT. If I wanted to walk more I'd get another dog, not a watch. I also like DIRECTLY AFTER they show the pedometer they order a pizza. I just can't imagine a world where these are good ideas. I'd love to have been in on those meetings to throw staplers at the people who suggested these things.
- ariwilson 12y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U
- akx 12y agoI'm very happy with my Pebble. It can't tell me whether I've walked or not, and I can't order a pizza with it, but I get all my notifications on it, which alone is very handy (pun not necessarily intended) for me.
- boomzilla 12y agoThe thing is not many people want to get notifications from their watch as they already carry a phone which is perfectly capable of giving notifications. If anyone can put a phone in a watch, then we start talking :)
- k__ 12y agoMy guess is: the trend will go to phonewatches and tablets. 99% of the time, I'm using the "tablet features" of my phone. I maybe get 3-5 calls a month. A phone-watch would suffice for this. If it could tell the time, provide me with notifications, has vibration and can tell if I move or not, this would be perfect. The rest of the information I would consume with my tablet.
- gurkendoktor 12y agoThe thing that makes phones such gold mines is that people in many countries reliably buy a new one every two years (through a carrier). Tablets are arguably on a plateau already. I wonder if the industry can really turn phone watches into something that reliably generates cash.
- guiomie 12y agoIs there a screen in the audience telling the audience to applaud ?
- vkal 12y agoDoes anyone know if they will make videos of the workshops/smaller talks available? I'm interested in a lot of these talks.
- WildUtah 12y agoThey always do. You can usually download them soon after the conference, but lately Apple and Google have been moving toward letting you download them within a day during their big conferences.
- terminus 12y agoYou can watch it live (and I believe offline) using the Google IO app.
- vkal 12y agoI noticed there also Code Labs, for example the Android Studio one. There are lots of VODs up for other day one talks, but since Code Lab is a bit different, do they usually release stuff for those, like walkthroughs/tutorials ?
- bithush 12y agoThe new keyboard is beautiful.
- tylerpachal 12y agoTuned in late; did he make any mention of the battery life for the MotoX? One of my favourite things about my Pebble is the battery life.
- tdicola 12y agoIs anyone else kind of creeped out by the presentation style? I can't really put my finger on why but everything comes across very wooden and out of touch with normal people.
- ChikkaChiChi 12y agoNot all of these guys are known for their MC'ing.
- Phlarp 12y agoPerhaps just that they have engineers presenting instead of the traditional PR mannequins / executives?
- seivan 12y agoApple has that as well. In fact Phil Schiller isn't on WWDC.
- gurkendoktor 12y agoAnd would you say that their last WWDC presentation was more natural than I/O? I thought it was often awkward to watch as well. (The Dre call...ugh.)
- nostromo 12y agoIt's the over reliance on the prompter. It has all the energy of someone reading a press release.
- pfortuny 12y agoAh, now I understand why the guy is not looking at the people, which is 101 of communication. EDIT: Unbelievable: they all look at the prompter like it were natural. I really cannot believe this is the most important Google public event and the speakers do not learn their stuff by heart.
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- ccozan 12y agoStrange, all this features with the Android Auto I can already do with my Moto X. Ok, is not displayed in the car's big display ( but I don't have one! ), but I can do almost everything without using my hands. MOTOACTV is also a precursor to this wearable watches, pretty much capable at least the notifications. Nonetheless, this was more sports oriented.
- spinchange 12y agoVoice actions and Motorola Connect are the best parts about the Moto X, in my opinion. Like you, I don't have a fancy dash display yet either, but the experience with the Moto X makes me long for the day when one could take over UI / input control automatically without even taking the phone out of my pocket or handling it at all. I will go in for an upgrade in auto at that point!
- ccozan 12y agoOh yes, I forgot about the Motorola Connect, it jumped on me when they demoed the Phone-Chromebook integration: hey, I already do that. It so sad that now for Google Motorola is not a poster child, but something that they try to forget about it.
- spinchange 12y agoI didn't see Moto X listed as an initially supported device for the forthcoming Chromecast "screen mirroring" feature either- although maybe I missed it. Hopefully it comes soon. I use the Chromecast constantly and would be all over this. I had such high hopes for a Google-owned Motorola too.
- AVTizzle 12y agoNo Tesla nor Mercedes in Android's Open Auto Alliance :/
- anandpdoshi 12y agoConsider that a $100 phone can have a reasonably well designed OS
- Synaesthesia 12y agoOh yeah, we're there. My Lumia 520 only cost $100, and I find Windows Phone 8.1 to be delightful on it. The new android offerings look even better.
- 72deluxe 12y agoThey look pretty but it appears to be reverting back to pale grey text on a white background, thereby making it impossible to read. Is this some nostalgic reversion back to poor contrast screens like old Psions or the cheap Palm Pilots when the battery ran down or something? It's unreadable.
- Pxtl 12y agoDisappointing to see that X-Box gamepad there. I keep hoping Google will take console gaming seriously-enough to launch some real Google-branded gaming hardware.
- angersock 12y agoWhy? Why would they want to get involved in that market?
- Pxtl 12y agoBecause Amazon and Apple are dipping their toes into that pool and Google is playing catch-up on the set-top-box market instead of leading. They sell games. They sell hardware on which people play games. They sell a set-top device that plays games. But they don't sell an actual controller for that device.
- angersock 12y agoAll of those are, arguably, markets that are distracting them from their core competency.
- 72deluxe 12y agoBut they dip into all markets. Someone said they are a "me too!" company that hurriedly adds products in a particular market area, then abandon maintenance of it after a while. Their core competency is marketing / search / ads, so I suppose the entire Android system and any hardware could be considered a side show? BTW, I am a happy Android user (other than Maps and Talk, which have gone down the toilet).
- Igglyboo 12y agoSince when has Google made hardware(actual mainstream hardware not things like nexus or glass)?
- lightblade 12y agoAre there any source that have live transcript for the keynote? Unfortunately I don't have a headphone at work :(
- bane 12y agoYou can turn on the closed captions, but they're machine generated and foul up pretty bad on the accents of the presenters.
- fataliss 12y agoOk so, I don't have a TV and my car is 2004 and don't even have bluetooth. What's the point of the new new new features so far? Pretty much nothing, no use, thanks.
- hrayr 12y agoIt's a preview to what's coming up so that industries and consumers can get ready. They're moving industries forward, not always catering to current or lagging users.
- mwfunk 12y agoSomeday HN readers will look back on the days of rampant middlebrow dismissal with fondness and nostalgia. Sadly, that day has come.
- tdicola 12y agoAutomatic unlock of your computer when your phone is near seems like the kind of feature that sounds great on paper but is a nightmare in practice. What happens when someone picks up my phone and walks near my laptop, they suddenly have access to my entire machine?
- hrayr 12y agoI can see this working with 'trusted' areas.. of course it's a bad idea in a coffee shop or office with lots of people you don't trust.. but at home or your own office this can be really time saver.
- mreiland 12y agoI just don't see how, if it's a 'trusted area' you don't usually lock your screen (or maybe you do? I imagine most people don't though), which means if you're logging back in, it's because you've been away for a bit. In which case, your machine may also be hibernating, which is slow to being with. So something like automatically unlocking while your phone is around isn't really all that useful. Not to mention, how long does it take to type in a password?
- fu9ar 12y agoIt's not about time or anything so logical. It's about wowing tech-illiterate executives with flashy new toys.
- SyncTheory13 12y agoYou got me thinking... Combine this with something similar to Tasker, so it only works when you're in trusted areas (Office, Home - Not coffee shops, etc...)... This could also increase security if somebody was to somehow steal both your laptop and your phone... On a tangent, I'm really excited about this and hope there's a Windows+Android version on the way (or clone)...
- ChikkaChiChi 12y agoThis will most definitely be something administrators have control over, as well as the individual user.
- IanCal 12y agoNative office file editing sounds extremely useful, depending on how well it works. I'm somewhat dubious, given other efforts, but if it does work it'll be great.
- ChikkaChiChi 12y agoHonest question: Are the people who are protesting people that paid to get into I/O or do they get in some other way?
- mrlase 12y agoTheir new redesign is pointless in the first place. OEMs will continue to produce overlays that completely disregard Google's design language. Instead, they'll put in poorly designed, tacky interfaces. While this doesn't affect the experience on stock Google devices, phones such as the Nexus line represent a crushingly small share of the market, so it doesn't matter. In addition, I don't understand the pivot towards elevation. The industry has been moving towards flat design. I like flat. It's simple. Less design is often better than more deisgn. The new Gmail design is a great example of this. The current design is simple. Information is there as soon as you open the application. The new design has increased usage of whitespace and a larger action bar, not to mention that intrusive icon in the bottom right. There hasn't been a single thing about this year's I/O that has impressed me, or pleased me for that matter. Disappointed that Google continues to pump out new features instead of perfecting the ones they already have. The way I currently see it, you have Apple putting out less features with incredible levels of polish, or Google throwing features at the wall until something sticks and then only enhancing it a little (i.e. Hangouts).
- commandar 12y ago>In addition, I don't understand the pivot towards elevation. The industry has been moving towards flat design. I like flat. It's simple. Less design is often better than more deisgn. I was absolutely relieved to see the elevation parts of the new design. Flat looks good, but it's been headed to an extreme recently. I can't stand the near total flatness of parts iOS7/8; it makes it very difficult for me to visually distinguish content.
- mrlase 12y agoI'm interested to know which parts specifically you find hard to distinguish in iOS7/8? Are you experiencing any similar problems with current Android design language?
- commandar 12y agoThe calendar in particular is a complete disaster: http://cdn1.appleinsider.com/13.06.17-Calendar-2.jpg http://cdn1.appleinsider.com/13.06.17-Calendar-2.jpg The navigation bar in general just looks like a mass of text to me most of the time, especially if there are more than two tabs: http://www.okilla.com/uploadfile/1/2013/07/10/11373456479/1373456568_ios7-design-preview-3.png http://www.okilla.com/uploadfile/1/2013/07/10/11373456479/13... EDIT: And no, I don't have similar issues on Android. Part of that could be the move to side drawers in Android apps. The greater contrast and lower reliance on lines as visual separators is definitely part of it as well.
- Kiro 12y agoEveryone receiving a Moto 360. Nice.
- bsimpson 12y agoI liked how the whole audience sighed when the 360 wasn't ready to ship.
- fidotron 12y agoMy main thought from this is Google are damned if they do, damned if they don't. Either they do nothing exciting and we complain about that, but if they did too much we'd complain about them stepping on the toes of everyone in the ecosystem. As it stands it looks a lot like they're licking too many cookies, but underdelivering, and being damned on both fronts, but getting the benefit of neither. Go back to last year's I/O, and Android Studio still isn't really the main IDE for Android yet, and the much lauded Maps has gone off a cliff. Let's face it, the only impressive tech stuff here today was the cloud debugging. Everything else was fluff. Frankly Amazon put on far more dangerous looking displays of technology prowess these days. And we still can't mention China. Disappointing, but somewhat inevitable.
- jbigelow76 12y agoI'll second your point on Android Studio. I was really hoping to see it was getting some serious attention this I/O (but I'm not watching everything live so maybe there is something I haven't seen yet)
- bennyg 12y agoAs someone who literally started developing for Android about 3 weeks ago, I also share this sentiment. Android Studio (and a pet plugin project a couple old coworkers are working on that makes Maven look downright dumb) and Gradle have been a godsend in getting me up to speed in Android development. I tried Eclipse once in the past to port an old app and absolutely hated everything about it - which I naively ascribed towards the entire Android dev ecosystem as well back then. I'm hoping for some more stable AS releases and a plan for a 1.0.0 soon.
- jbigelow76 12y agoGood news, it may not have warranted discussion in the day 1 keynote but news of Android Studio is coming on day 2 Session title: "What’s new in Android development tools", 9:00 AM https://www.google.com/events/io/schedule/session/ac46ad42-19c0-e311-b297-00155d5066d7 https://www.google.com/events/io/schedule/session/ac46ad42-1...
- guelo 12y agoL? I guess they wanted to be less whimsical. But in a couple years I'll have a hard time remembering which version that was like I can remember which one Gingerbread was.
- wldcordeiro 12y agoI think they haven't found a nickname for it yet. Remember KitKat was called Key Lime Pie at first.
- quux 12y agoDoesn't the codename usually come before the project?
- wldcordeiro 12y agoI believe the dessert names are the actual release names if I recall so a code name like 'L' is more internal and subject to change.
- wildpeaks 12y agoOne UX issue with the watch is that it seems it will need many swipes to find the one app you're looking if you have more than a couple apps installed (see the number of apps people have on their smartphones now), let alone find the one screen you're looking for in that app; but I suppose they expect people to use voice commands for that.
- rsthesmart 12y agoVic Gundotra's absence couldn't have been more conspicuous. That guy was a great presenter and a showman. Also, was it just me or did the keynote feel really long? I don't think it was a good idea for them to change the one-keynote-per-day format, especially when they didn't have stuff like new moonshot announcements or q&a time with the ceo to make it more engaging and interesting. Sundar was perfect for the second day keynotes about chrome and web. I don't think he is a good replacement for Vic for keynotes. The whole keynote felt a bit stale. The protests livened up the keynote more than the presenters did. I wonder why neither Page nor Brin came on stage.
- general_failure 12y agoI think it's just that they had nothing interesting to announce and not the the speakers.
- rsthesmart 12y agoI dunno if they really did have nothing interesting. The part that is intriguing is the fact that they repeated over and over again that this was the biggest overhaul of android yet, while being very unenthusiastic about it. I think this might be because they've either changed strategic direction or are awaiting an overhaul of senior management, what with the Nest acquisition and Vic and Hugo's departures and all. I think the stuff that they had to announce today was simply a lagging indicator of their current direction.
- zmmmmm 12y agoThe lack of any mention of Google+ was absolutely deafening. If we needed any more confirmation that it's been dismantled within Google I think this would be it. Interesting though that nothing was mentioned to take its place or give us any hint about the future. At very least, they need an identity service of some kind to power the other platforms.
- 72deluxe 12y agoIs Google+ the new Blogger?
- onedev 12y agoIt was a snoozefest
- jbigelow76 12y agoiOS, Android and Windows 8 are all greater than the sum of their parts when you buy in to the complete ecosystem. I hope auto manufacturers are going to be able to make mobile OS enhancements modular to their vehicles. I would really hate to pay for CarPlay (iOS for cars) in a car but have cast my lot with Android, or vice versa. Edit: corrected name of iOS for cars
- nl 12y agoIs there a link for the Google Fit APIs?
- bsimpson 12y agohttp://developers.google.com/fit http://developers.google.com/fit Sounds like they're about six months in to the project, and will have something to show in the next month or so.
- mkagenius 12y agoThe live captioning - they look good. Wondering if there is any open source tool that is as good as that?