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Introducing Moto E and Moto G with 4G LTE: Smart phones priced for all
- rtpg 12y agoThe Moto G is still pretty much the best value proposition out there, great phone at a great price. In this crowd there's a lot of hate when the phone doesn't have an SD card slot (and I kinda wish it did), but the fact of the matter is you cannot get a better phone for the price (and even for double the price it might be hard).
- Alterlife 12y agoSurprising... The Moto E has an SD card slot, dual sim support, and a gorilla glass screen. I'm guessing they've got the price down by getting rid of the front facing camera, and LED flash for the rear camera, probably cheaper build quality. But... that's a a great price!
- sspiff 12y agoThey're also using a screen that's much cheaper, I think that explains a large part of the price difference.
- higherpurpose 12y agoThere's less internal storage, too, although the 4GB they saved costs them about $2 in component costs (~$4 out of retail price), since NAND flash is about $0.5 per GB now, and it's unfortunate most people don't realize this, and demand not to be ripped off on extra storage prices. That's why the OnePlus One managed to put another 48GB for only $50 more, while still making a nice profit (~$24 in component costs), while companies like Apple and Samsung still charge you $100 more for another 16GB that costs them only $8. For $100 more they should be offering offering another 128 GB, and it would still give them nice profits. They haven't changed their default storage prices since 2010, while prices have fallen by 30 percent per year, costing them 1/4 now of what it cost in 2010. Both Apple and Samsung continue to optimize for costs rather than quality - Samsung by refusing to use anything higher quality than their cheap sub-$1 per unit plastic cases, for their $600 phones (I'm pretty sure even this Moto E has higher quality case than Galaxy S5), and Apple by lowering their BOM cost with each new generation compared to the last, yet still keeping the prices just as high for everything. If they keep following this trend, iPhone 10 will cost them $100 to build, but they will still sell it for $650. My point is not that Apple doesn't keep adding stuff to their new phones or iPads, but that they are adding less than the average rate of technological progress. Ideally, a $650 device, would maintain roughly the same costs with each generation, because the company would use the best possible components and features for the same costs as last year. If they don't do that, it means they aren't properly optimizing for competitive quality and consumer value, and they shouldn't keep the retail price the same, and they should lower it accordingly.
- sliverstorm 12y agoI wish it had an SD card slot for sure, too! I was overly optimistic about how quickly 8GB would fill up. But, it's not a big deal, and for the price? Can't think of anything close. Edit: Oh dear, the new 4G version supports SD cards. Man, I didn't get my Moto G that long ago either. Regrets...
- bnn 12y agoSome phones for the same price: ZTE Geek v975, Lenovo P780, Lenovo S860, Jiayu G4s, Star N9800. Faster, bigger, dual sim. And Lenovo has great battery.
- daliusd 12y ago... and no Android KitKat.
- tomp 12y agoFor me, bigger is a disadvantage.
- GFischer 12y agoI bought a Lenovo for my girlfriend (S820), since Moto G was sold out. While it's a pretty decent phone, the UI has some lag and feels a bit sluggish compared to its competitors. I think the Mediatek does not deliver the same performance as other similarly specced chips. I don't know enough to understand why, maybe the GPU is not good enough or something. Edit: someone says that, among other improvements, Motorola uses a different and faster filesystem (F2FS) which is faster (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7742608 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7742608). It does have some big advantages (much better camera for example), and the battery seems to be pretty good too. Huawei has ever cheaper similarly specced phones, but the reviews scared me, it seems their software is extremely buggy. If you're considering rooting / modding your phone, then maybe one of these phones is a good option.
- sirkneeland 12y agoAt this point though it is not crazy to say that Motorola's (unobtrusive and thoughtful) software additions actually add value to their phones. My Moto X is an excellent piece of hardware but the magic that really sets it apart is in Moto's actually useful software additions. Now that Lenovo is buying Motorola, it will be interesting to see what happens both with Moto and Lenovo devices.
- polshaw 12y agoThe Moto G LTE has an SD card slot! I'm glad to see SD having a 'resurgence' with HTC (m8) and Motorola now adding it back in.
- free 12y agoThis is the first time I am seeing that a phone is priced cheaper in India. It is exclusively available online in India on http://www.flipkart.com/motorola/motoe http://www.flipkart.com/motorola/motoe
- mataug 12y agoA friend of mine just bought one last night.
- programmer_dude 12y agoIts out of stock already!
- serf 12y agoI know it's becoming less of an issue for others, but I wish that the current Motorola lineup had replaceable batteries.
- jestinjoy1 12y agoBoth MotoG and MotoE don't have replaceable Battery. Whether this has any effect on their pricing!
- seanmcdirmid 12y agoWhat modern smartphone has a replaceable battery? Edit: well, I'm actually quite surprised.
- sirkneeland 12y agoA Samsung Galaxy S (up to and including the S5) I don't personally like the Galaxy series, but it is undeniably a modern smartphone that has a replaceable battery.
- userbinator 12y agoIn fact I don't think Samsung has made any smartphone without a removable battery.
- GFischer 12y agoA good thing, since their batteries don't last that long. I've had to replace 2 batteries (on Galaxy Ace and Galaxy Mini 2) which had only 2 years of (admittedly heavy) use, while my Nokias sustained a lot more abuse.
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- jestinjoy1 12y agoMost Modern Smart Phones sold in India in this price category has replaceable battery Edit: I was asking the question whether this has a reason behind low price?
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- nolok 12y agoThe Moto G is still the best in its price range, and at $129 the Moto E may manage to pull the same thing in the lower than 150 dollar market. Whatever Google changed in Motorola's approach, it's working, because that's the first two phones they've ever made that I wish to buy and recommend (including G for myself). They say it sells very well so I hope these things are sufficiently profitable for them, we will all benefit from great phones at low price point. (the higher priced market may be harder to breach though, since the Nexus brand is already there playing the same game)
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- rglullis 12y agoJust don't forget that now Motorola is owned by Lenovo.
- ccozan 12y agoNot yet! The deal must be approved by the US, EU, etc. Until then, Motorola is a Google Company.
- tomp 12y agoOn the other hand, it's a real disappointment that they only guarantee one (1) future OS upgrade, which is a real shame especially since it's basically Google.
- nicpottier 12y agoThe big surprise for me was that they nixed the rear LED flash. Not because anybody would take pictures with that camera, but for a phone made for the developing world not having a "flashlight" is a huge knock against it. Seriously, flashlights are a big selling point even on simple dumb phones here in Rwanda, and I just can't imagine having a phone without it When the power goes out a few times a week, having a source of light on you is a big boon. (and no the screen doesn't count!) Seems like a misstep to me.
- levosmetalo 12y agoWhat do you mean that flash is needed only in developing world? Is it somehow not needed in developed countries, cause days lasts longer and Sun is shinier?
- humbledrone 12y agoPresumably, among other things, the electricity that powers the lights in the developed world is more reliable than in the developing world.
- jmathai 12y agoI believe he meant this... > When the power goes out a few times a week I know when I visit my parents in India that candles have a very different purpose than they do here in California.
- pjmlp 12y agoGo to love the way upgrades are "sold" to the customers: "And with a guaranteed upgrade" == "The device will receive at least one software update to the current KitKat 4.4.2 operating system"
- samstokes 12y agoYeah, that reads like weasel words. So does 4.4.3 count as your one update? Does an unnumbered security patch to 4.4.2? The price point is tremendous though.
- batiudrami 12y agoI would give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they mean one major version update plus patches.
- fhars 12y agoThey spell it out explicitly on their product page: The device will receive at least one software update to bring it up to date with the current KitKat 4.4.3 operating system.
- aphexairlines 12y ago"And with a guaranteed upgrade,*2 you’ll know you’re always up to date with the best Android experience." False advertising: obviously not "always" up to date.
- ceejayoz 12y agoYeah, that's absurd wording. "Momentarily" would be far more accurate.
- joosters 12y agoSo how long will this phone get security updates for it? Just for the first bug fix? I wish phone manufacturers would specify a support time period.
- higherpurpose 12y agoMoto E is a nice phone, and although I haven't tried Moto G in real life, it actually looks like it has slightly better build quality for some reason, and more compact, too (for the size). But for only $50 difference, Moto G seems the better choice. Maybe my expectations were unrealistic, but I actually thought they could manage to put this one at $99, especially once I saw a rumor that it will sell for $117 in India. Moto G also started at about 17 percent in India more than in US ($210), so I logically deduced in US it would be $99. http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/mobile-tabs/motorola-launches-moto-e-prices-it-at-rs-6999-makes-it-available-exclusively-on-flipkart/ http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/mobile-tabs/moto... Moto G had a GREAT price at $179 ($210-$240 elsewhere), and why it became so popular in the first place. It doesn't quite look that Moto E has the same type of great price for what it offers. $99 would've been that great price that would've made everyone recommend it as the default choice for the price range. If the rumor about the price in India was right, and it won't actually be more like $150 now there, then perhaps they are trying to have a more "global" price, where it's more or less the same price everywhere, even in US, and this way they'd make little profit on the global versions, but more profit in US. As for the specs, I'm a little disappointed it comes with Cortex A5 instead of A7, but since it's clocked 200 mhz higher than Cortex A7 would be, maybe it's not too big of a problem, especially since they claim the general performance of the device is faster than a Galaxy S4 in many situations (like opening apps, which I think has more to do with their use of the F2FS file system, which ironically is made by Samsung, but they aren't using it themselves). I also told my little brother if he'd want one of these, and he asked me if it has flash, and was disappointed to hear it does not. I think Motorola underestimated the importance of flash for this type of phone. The screen, size, internal storage+SD, I'm fine with. I'm just hoping that whenever Google launches Android 5.0 (hopefully this year), it will be upgraded to it.
- chrisbolt 12y agoI went to motorola.com, clicked "Learn More" about the Moto E, then clicked Buy Now, and the first "option" I was presented with was this: http://cl.ly/image/3E3y0m083j2I http://cl.ly/image/3E3y0m083j2I After that, I was shown options "US GSM" and "Global GSM", both priced identically. Why even ask me? All they did was add clicks between me and giving them money.
- fpgeek 12y agoThey have to ask you. They're two different phones and they don't know which you want. Maybe you want a phone to use in the US. Or maybe you want something cheap for travel or for sending to a family member overseas or ...
- smcl 12y agoCome on, GP obviously meant the step with the single choice dropdown was redundant
- lnanek2 12y agoIt would probably be more expensive to make a single model that could use all communications bands. Different countries use different frequencies.
- userbinator 12y agoAccording to http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-g/338376-differnces-between-gobal-us-versions.html http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-g/338376-differnces-be... UMTS/HSPA+ Global 850/900/1900/2100 US 850/1700/1900 So unless you absolutely need that 1700MHz band for 3G from your provider, Global is probably the better option...
- aranjedeath 12y agoThat 1700mhz is a tmo-licensed band for the US that offers UTMS AWS, which provides 3g at rather snappy speeds. If you're not intending to go abroad, the US edition makes sense. If else, the global model has pretty nearly every widely-deployed 3g band.
- shapeshed 12y agoSeems you can't buy the phone outright in the UK and have to buy it through network providers. Would have been good to see an unlocked version purchasable direct from Motorola.
- pling 12y agoYou can buy it from Amazon in the UK. That's where I got mine.
- ableal 12y agoI suppose you mean the Moto G you mentioned elsewhere. For now, I cannot get Amazon to show me a page for the Moto E - specifically looking for "Motorola Moto E" only shows Moto G links.
- ars 12y agoThe US amazon page for it says: "Special Shipping Information: Due to federal and international regulations, this product can only be shipped within the 50 states." Strange message. I don't believe them anyway, it's more likely Motorola restrictions.
- self 12y agoAmazon generally won't ship electronics outside the States: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=468634 http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=4...
- pling 12y agoThat is correct. There is no Moto E release here yet. Probably will be a couple of weeks after the carriers get it if it was like the Moto G.
- pja 12y agoExpansys ( http://www.expansys.com/ http://www.expansys.com/ ) have pre-order placeholder pages up for non-carrier SIM-free Moto E & 4G G models in black or white. It looks like you'll be able to buy them here soon enough: http://www.expansys.com/motorola-moto-e-black-261546/ http://www.expansys.com/motorola-moto-e-black-261546/ http://www.expansys.com/motorola-moto-g-4g-8gb-black-261577/ http://www.expansys.com/motorola-moto-g-4g-8gb-black-261577/
- pling 12y agoI own a Moto G and am not totally happy with it. I replaced a Lumia 820 with it. The big problems for me are the camera is awful, I mean really bad. It's that bad I've started dragging my DSLR with me. Also the WiFi is terribly unreliable. I'll be sitting opposite the router and it'll start "avoiding poor connections". This isn't environmental as it happens everywhere. Also exchange integration is ugly and painful. Genuinely regretting the purchase. I'm sure someone can produce a better handset for the price.
- choochootrain 12y agoavoiding poor wifi connections is the default, but you can turn that off in the advanced wifi settings
- pling 12y agoI'm aware of that. If I turn that off it just loses connections regularly.
- gabzuka 12y agoYou might have a faulty handset, mine picks up the signal pretty fast, no drops.
- nellyspageli 12y agoThe camera might be awful compared to a phone that costs twice its price, but have you compared it to any other phones in its price range?
- GFischer 12y agoI have (not the OP but I wanted to buy a Moto G). If the camera is the killer feature, I recommend a Lenovo (S820 for example should be similarly priced). But it lags behind the Moto G in other aspects.
- jon-wood 12y agoAs another piece of anacdata, I have one and absolutely love it. Its not the most powerful phone I've ever owned, and you're right the camera isn't great, but for the price I really couldn't ask for much more. Its quick, its light, and the screen doesn't shatter the first time you drop it on the floor.
- apricot13 12y agoThey've been very clever with the timing on this! Bringing it out at a really affordable price just before all the new nexus/galaxy s5 mini/metal/iphone 600 come out! So people like me, who are (desperately) due an upgrade can buy this and sit on the fence until all the shiny new phones are available and then start a new contract. Genius! Its a shame about the lack of flash and the non removable battery but I think this type of phone is made to be short term. Its meant to be either an interim solution as I mentioned above or as a taster to get people into the smart phone ecosystem and upgrade to something better in a year or so when it starts slowing down.
- enscr 12y agoMoto E & Moto G, both are very well designed, hot selling items in developing countries. They offer so much more value for that price point than ANY of the competitors. Granted you'd find pain points but the fact is, they are providing a quality user experience to the masses at a fraction of the cost. I think a first time budget user deserves a quality UI with a great touch experience to start with. (I'm looking at the sluggish Samsung etc. models at this price point with crappy touch experience).
- DonGateley 12y agoThese Moto phones would be great vehicles for getting people to try Ubuntu Touch. Why do they only provide images for the most expensive possibilities?
- noir_lord 12y agoOne reason I can think of is that the high end now will be the mid range by the time Ubuntu Touch is any kind of shippable form.
- jokoon 12y agoI'd still buy a smartphone without a camera. I wonder how much that smartphone would cost without a camera.
- megablast 12y agoWhy? I can't see a reason unless you work in a secure environment.
- georgemcbay 12y agoI assume jokoon's point wasn't that he(?) needs a phone without a camera, rather that the camera is completely superfluous for him(?) and would like an option to get a phone without a camera for a cheaper price, even if only marginally cheaper. I actually wouldn't mind that myself. I'm never without a 'real' camera without at least an APS-C sized sensor, so the camera on my cellphones might as well not exist. If I could get even a couple dollar discount on a phone with no camera I'd take it. Having said all of that, I realize that it makes no business sense for any phone maker to cater to me considering the costs of having a separate camera-less SKU would far outweigh any additional sales they might get by catering to the extreme minority of people like me, and having a phone with no camera option at all is just too niche to bother with.
- rahimnathwani 12y agoIt would be pretty inconvenient for me to have a phone without a camera now, even if I were happy to carry a separate camera. Even though I have an eye-fi card and can therefore wirelessly transfer photos from my camera to my phone, there are many use cases where it's too clunky or too impossible: 1. Scanning a barcode (e.g. a product bar code or a QR code to add a contact). 2. Sending time-sensitive photos over WeChat, e.g. my wife sent me some photos as she was standing in a fabric store in another continent, and I was instantly able to pick the one I wanted. 3. Video calling using Skype/Hangouts or similar 4. Adding a payment card to the Uber app
- whizzkid 12y agoI see that Motorola is trying to get to the position where Nokia is/was. I don't think it is really really easy but at least they got the idea right. "Moto E: Made to Last. Priced for All."
- sirkneeland 12y agoAs a Nokia employee (well, still-Nokia since the phone part went to Microsoft and I'm still at Nokia) I have long thought that recent Moto phones were the most "Nokia-like" Android phones out there (Nokia X notwithstanding of course). Motos are going for that spot of fun design, high durability, global availability and thoughtful experience touches, all from a reputable and storied brand. It's probably why the first phone I bought with my own money in years was a Moto X (I bought it the day after the Nokia-Microsoft sale was announced). That my Moto X was made in a former Nokia manufacturing center in Texas just makes it all the more fitting :) I'll miss you, Nokia (phones). But hopefully Moto will be a worthy successor.
- nellyspageli 12y agoThis is great news for android developers! Maybe one day google will be able to deprecate Gingerbread! It was released over 4 years ago yet every android app must support it since it represents about 20% of users since manufacturers continue to sell phones with it in 2014. Gingerbread is a real pain to support and bloats and slows all android applications by having to include a huge support library (~5MB).
- rahimnathwani 12y agoDoes anyone know why the maximum MicroSD capacity is listed as 32GB? 64GB cards work on my relatively old Huawei Android handset.
- fpgeek 12y agoI suspect it has to do with exFAT drivers. IIRC, Motorola devices (like Nexus/GPE devices) don't include exFAT support (to avoid Microsoft entanglements). Unfortunately, microSD cards larger than 32GB come pre-formatted as exFAT, so they won't work without reformatting as FAT. Rather than get into all of the various complications, I suspect it's easier for them to say 32 GB is the limit (and let people who care enough figure out the workaround themselves).
- reitzensteinm 12y agoDoing some digging, it seems to be possible to format >32gb cards as FAT32 using this utility[1] (see the video[2]). Apparently the 3DS is also limited to FAT32, but accepts 128gb cards fine using similar techniques[3]. And according to Wikipedia, this appears to be within the FAT32 specs[4] - it's just Microsoft's crappy format utility that has a maximum of 32gb. That said, I'm not going to risk $350 (card + phone) on this working until I see a few field reports... [1] http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9fp863d-o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9fp863d-o [3] http://nintendoeverything.com/3ds-can-accept-128gb-sdxc-cards/ http://nintendoeverything.com/3ds-can-accept-128gb-sdxc-card... [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table
- dan_bk 12y agoWho cares about yet-another-new-phone. What we need is 100% open-source software, hardware and firmware.
- aurumpotest 12y agoGet working on it then.
- sirkneeland 12y agos/we need/I want FTFY
- ctb_mg 12y agoWhere does the Moto E compare in "horsepower" to phones we currently know? It states the Snapdragon 1.4 ghz dual core processor, isn't that what's in the US domestic Galaxy S3?
- gerbal 12y agoIt would appear to be about the same as a S3
- fidotron 12y agoAt least in Canada it remains incredibly difficult to get the G or X without a plan or contract. I can't help wonder what exactly it is that makes Motorola so resistant to direct selling in the frozen north. The single greatest thing about the Nexus 5 is how easy it is to buy the handset with absolutely no consideration about the carrier at all, and it's sad that Motorola haven't learned this from greater Google before going off to Lenovo. Doubly sad, as the products deserve a lot more attention. I do wonder if they're concerned about them being good enough to cannibalise vast swathes of the market.
- qwerta 12y agoAmazon does not ship to Canada?
- w1ntermute 12y agoIt just doesn't make sense to target a developed nation with high smartphone penetration that has a population of only 35 million. Moto's aiming to sell the G and E to price-sensitive first-time smartphone buyers in developing nations, probably with the plan that by building a brand now, those customers will buy higher end Moto smartphones as they gain wealth.
- ommunist 12y agoMoto - 1 day on battery with moderate use. iPhone - 5 days on battery with moderate use. Moto does not cost 5 times less than iPhone.
- smackfu 12y agoWhat is this magical iPhone you have?
- ommunist 12y agoThe moderate use is the magic. I'd like to have a Moto for a model use comparison.
- Kudos 12y agoWhere are you getting those numbers for the iPhone?
- ommunist 12y agoFrom daily use. And I did support for a company on HTCs, which are close to Motos but not the same. Like I said, I'd like to compare on a model usage for different user profiles. Mine is modest, iPhone does 4 days (5 when was new), HTC did exactly 1 day.
- krisgenre 12y agoIts better than my Galaxy S2 that I bought for more than $550 just three years ago :(
- andyl 12y agoI hope all phones will adopt this feature: "Built-in FM radio"
- phkahler 12y agoI've been waiting for that and Built-in TV tuner for years. I don't think the carriers want that because you don't use their expensive data then. I'm on republic now, so I don't use carriers data anyway and TV would be great. Also as a special interest, allowing that FM tuner to go a little higher in frequency could pick up the aviation frequencies - every pilot would want one (that's not a huge market).
- GFischer 12y agoMost no-brand Chinese knockoffs have built-in TV tuners. If they work as well as their cameras, I don't think they're what you're looking for (a coworker bought one as a temporary cell phone just to try it, and it was nowhere close to what they advertised, and was basically awful). Just to be clear: I'm talking about chinese white-label products, some are sold here under the brand Xion for example. http://www.zonatecno.com.uy/Celulares_Xion_XI-CE50_Dual_Sim_TV.asp http://www.zonatecno.com.uy/Celulares_Xion_XI-CE50_Dual_Sim_... Searching, I just found out there are cheap dongles to add a TV Tuner :) for example: http://www.elgato.com/en/eyetv/eyetv-micro http://www.elgato.com/en/eyetv/eyetv-micro http://www.geniatech.com/tv-tuner-for-android-tablet.asp http://www.geniatech.com/tv-tuner-for-android-tablet.asp and they apparently work reasonably well http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2094801 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2094801
- sliverstorm 12y agoit does depend on headphones for an antenna. As a result I don't use it much on my moto g. It is nice though.
- vertex-four 12y agoMost feature phones have had it for a long time now.
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- JohnDoe365 12y agoCurrently Moto G has US GSM option only.
- peterwwillis 12y agoMy Android 4.1 smartphone is $70 at Bestbuy. It's a dual-core 1.4ghz with 1GB ram. Half the cost of the Moto E. Does the Moto E have slightly higher specs than my phone? Yes. But is it "shaking up" the smartphone world? Hell no. Feature phone buyers will buy phones like mine, which are half the cost of the Moto E, and fully capable modern Android phones.
- ColinDabritz 12y agoRegarding the guaranteed upgrade: "2 The device will receive at least one software update to the current KitKat 4.4.2 operating system." The wording there is confusing. I could see reading it as "it currently doesn't support 4.4.2, but it will." or "We'll upgrade to at least 4.4.3" or "we'll upgrade to at least 4.5" I suspect they intend it to mean 4.5, but it is written vaguely, and that sort of promise sounds very much like marketing weasel words to avoid shipping anything more than minor system upgrades (which are INTENDED to not break functionality on devices). They should be more explicit, why not just say a particular version number or later? Fear of the team changing the numbering scheme?
- nuclear_eclipse 12y agoConsidering the Moto X (on Verizon even) was the first non-Nexus phone to receive an upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4, I would assume it means that the Moto E will get whatever major release comes out after 4.4. But I would also be willing to bet that the wording is intentionally vague such that if Android 5.0 comes out next, and makes it "impossible" to upgrade, that the lawyers will be happy with just a single security/bugfix update.
- r00fus 12y agoWhy would Android 5.0 be impossible to upgrade? Looking at it from the Apple side of things, where each phone gets 2-3 years of OS updates, "at least one" seems paltry in comparison. When you say "impossible", I see "cost prohibitive" - i.e., they can't sell a phone at this price if they want to support drivers and a newer OS for more than one release.
- nuclear_eclipse 12y agoI guess it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, and meant more that "if the Android team all of a sudden re-architects the entire platform", then they have a way out. In all likelihood, any Android 5.0 release will continue to be an incremental upgrade of the Android platform. But lawyers don't like committing to anything.
- neves 12y agoI'm a happy Moto G user, use its led as a flashlight, but as someone who has a big music collection, the external 32g sd card is really a must.
- grymoire1 12y ago"Goodbye Flip Phone" Not likely - as long as the carriers REQUIRE a data plan to buy a smart phone. Some people use a WiFi tablet and a flip phone to keep monthly costs to a minimum.