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Well, that's the end of my usage of Dropbox, effective immediately. I'll make sure to mention Condi's association with them in every conversation involving Drop
by cryoshon 13y ago
Well, that's the end of my usage of Dropbox, effective immediately. I'll make sure to mention Condi's association with them in every conversation involving Dropbox, in hope of spreading knowledge about their profane selection of board members.
It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. These people should be in prison for malevolently misleading the public in order to start a for-profit war which killed hundreds of thousands of people.
- jamespo 13y agoI too am considering moving my free account to another free provider
- hrvbr 13y agohubiC works as well as Dropbox, for what I can tell from a few weeks of usage.
- antocv 13y agoHey now, it would have been for nothing, all years of war and 600 000 deaths, if these people who were in charge and lead the effort, would suddenly find themselves in low-key positions in society. The top cream must stay at the top. Besides, her technical skills and understanding of IT for sure are awesome, making her the finest choice for Dropbox business.
- JackpotDen 13y ago>Besides, her technical skills and understanding of IT for sure are awesome, making her the finest choice for Dropbox business. Is this sarcastic? I can't tell.
- Infinitesimus 13y agonah, totally serious /s
- notd97843 13y agoAnd yet, President Obama selected Joe Biden as his vice president, who also voted for the same war. Hillary Clinton did too, and she's the leading Democratic contender for 2016. Why no outrage? Because they have a D next to their names?
- nikcub 13y agoThis really shouldn't need to be pointed out: but the difference is that none of these people have been appointed to the board of any tech company. In 10 years time if Facebook put James Clapper or Eric Holder on their board it'd likely be more controversial.
- hg54yghf 13y agoAre you serious? Al Gore is on various boards, including Apple. He also supported the war. Will you stop using Apple products now? You're not a hypocrite, are you?
- nikcub 13y agoAl Gore was appointed to the board of Apple prior to the Iraq war. Here is the Slashdot thread from when he joined, there wasn't much controversial about him at the time other than 'huh, he invented the internet': http://apple-beta.slashdot.org/story/03/03/19/2246212/al-gore-joins-apples-board-of-directors http://apple-beta.slashdot.org/story/03/03/19/2246212/al-gor... He wasn't in congress during the Iraq war vote. There is a very wide bridge between having a personal opinion as a private citizen in agreeing with the war (as Gore did) and being part of a group of people who planned, orchestrated, operated & implemented two unjust and likely illegal wars. fwiw, I don't like many of them and don't understand the whole red/blue R/D thing you guys have going on - they all seem very similar from where i'm sitting.
- gfsdg4g54 13y agoThis matters why? Al Gore was on the board after the war started. He made his support for the war clear after his appointment and after the war had started. He wasn't in Congress, but Condeleeza wasn't in Congress too. She had as many votes as Al Gore did for the Iraq war. Why is Al Gore excused but Condeleeza not?
- Fuxy 13y agobtsync works wonders if you have a personal server always on.
- mchanson 13y agoI use BTSync as well and can second this. To exchange files with clients I also use Google drive and Dropbox. BTSync and Dropbox is well behaved on Mac OS X. Where as Google drive uses quite a lot of resources on a regular occasion and pegs a core...
- JabavuAdams 13y agoGood for you for standing by your principles. This definitely puts a taint on Dropbox, for me. We'll see if that leads to action. Sometimes it sucks to be a pragmatist.
- notd97843 13y agoWithout looking at the facts? Guilty until proven innocent? Good for him for convicting others of war crimes without any due process?
- cryoshon 13y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Iraq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Iraq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Role_in_authorizing_use_of_controversial_interrogation_techniques http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Role_in_authori... The facts have been on the record for years now. She's guilty, but there will never be a formal trial specifically because power will never turn on one of their own if there's nothing to gain.
- notd97843 13y agoHate to break this to you, but Wikipedia is not due process. http://archive.is/vAWQa http://archive.is/vAWQa
- DominikR 13y agoThat's usually the first thing that war criminals come up with to shield themselves from prosecution. "They just didn't know better" It doesn't matter if they knew or didn't, they are responsible for what they did. If ignorance was sufficient, they'd place a donkey in the white house and wash their hands in innocence.
- gfsdg4g54 13y agoYou're accusing her of war crimes. The burden of proof is on you to prove that she is a war criminal. Cite admissible evidence only, please (not Wikipedia links). We can try her in court once you give us the evidence. You only have to meet the plausible cause standard.
- barking 13y agoNot everyone on the board of a tech company needs to be a techie, though some definitely should be. There's no doubting her ability and toughness. If she takes the job seriously I'm sure that she will do very well.
- jbooth 13y agoFrom an outside reading of what seemed to happen in that White House, I'd say "there's no doubting her ability to stay on everyone's good side by watching which way the wind blows and not standing on any principle whatsoever". Which is probably good business -- but I'd hesitate to call it toughness.
- k-mcgrady 13y agoI don't think the parent cares how good a job she does or whether or not she is a techie. It's her actions as a politician he/she has a problem with. Switching away from Dropbox would make my life somewhat more difficult but I'm considering it.
- LanceH 13y agoIf I were going with a cynical thought, I would think this is a move to get dropbox into government contracts somehow.
- cryoshon 13y agoAgreed. With Condi comes access to all sorts of government entities, and the contacts to make those entities work in favor of whatever Dropbox needs them for. This appointment smacks of the corporate-political complex. It's practically inevitable that USG resources will be used in favor of Dropbox's business at some point.
- thickness 13y agoI agree, that's probably what's going here. But the thing is, a lot of this stuff works quid pro quo. What might happen is, USG will pay Dropbox a nice penny to use some of its service... aaaaaand in exchange they also set up a deal to snoop on Dropbox users.
- judk 13y agoDropbox has such a security non-policy that there is no need to sign any deals.
- metric10 13y agoKind of like Al Gore on Apple's board?
- droopyEyelids 13y agoThe worst part of this, for me, is how damn inefficient Dropbox becomes when it's used in a large environment. I pray the government isn't saddled with the same problems I'm facing. (user management, share management, every user having permission to duplicate or destroy all files they can read, inability of admins to fix those changes, no API access for any administrative or reporting feature, inability to control own encryption)
- EC1 13y ago
- notd97843 13y agoYou elected a president who selected a vice president who voted for the war (Joe Biden). Why are you speaking up now? Because she's a Republican?
- cryoshon 13y agoI didn't vote for Biden, and I didn't forget his pro-war stance, either. Biden wasn't just appointed as a board member for a relevant tech corporation, though. If he was, I'd be up in arms, too. That said, even so, Biden's role in promoting Iraq was far less than Condi's. Additionally, Biden didn't specifically push for advanced interrogation techniques AKA torture. Condi did.
- hg54yghf 13y agoUhh, Al Gore supported the war too and he's a partner of Kleiner Perkins and a board member of Apple, a firm that has funded several Silicon Valley companies. Will you stop using those companies too?
- ZanyProgrammer 13y agoAl Gore wasn't part of the administration that led us to war. Rice helped enable the war, Gore was just wrong like most Americans.
- hg54yghf 13y ago"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 Want more? By the way, Rice never "enabled" for the war because she couldn't vote in Congress. Similar to Al Gore.
- d23 13y ago
- woofyman 13y agoShe was also famously shopping for shoes and watching Spamalot in manhattan while Katrina was devistating the gulf coast.
- knodi123 13y agoWhat is the secretary of state supposed to do during a hurricane? Send an ambassador to reason with it?
- spoiledtechie 13y agoShe is one of the smartest women in politics, there is. There is no going around it. She was probably placed on the board to move Dropbox into government storage. Whatever your views might be, This was a smart move by Dropbox, but for her government ties, but also for her intelligence. If you think she is dumb, or stupid, then I call you ignorant.
- vdaniuk 13y agoLiterally nobody in this thread called her dumb, so this is a classic red herring. Everyone is concerned about her ethics, not her cognitive capacity.
- doktrin 13y ago> If you think she is dumb, or stupid, then I call you ignorant. You're attacking a straw man. I haven't seen anyone claiming anything of the sort.
- atmosx 13y agoYes, I think I'll move away from dropbox too before the end of month. Spideroak seems the best possible clone, or Wuala who has servers in Switzerland.
- Kiro 13y agoI don't have a real opinion about the Iraq war but do you think it was wrong to overthrow Saddam Hussein?
- stephencanon 13y agoIt was certainly morally wrong to overthrow Hussein without a clear plan to stabilize the country once the government had been deposed, and without committing sufficient military and monetary resources to do so.
- pekk 13y agoMore troops and cash would not have fixed Iraq.
- at-fates-hands 13y ago>>> It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. Another great example of how partisanship and shitty double standards have ruined our country. The fact is, the vote to invade Iraq was a bi-partisan vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_the_Use_of_United_States_Armed_Forces_Against_Iraq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_t... "Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002, in conjunction with the Administration's proposals,[2][7] H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representatives on Thursday afternoon at 3:05 p.m. EDT on October 10, 2002, by a vote of 296-133,[8] and passed the Senate after midnight early Friday morning, at 12:50 a.m. EDT on October 11, 2002, by a vote of 77-23.[9] It was signed into law as Pub.L. 107–243 by President Bush on October 16, 2002." 82 Democrats in the house and 29 in the Senate voted for the resolution. If you're against Rice for her actions leading up the war, then maybe you should take some action against the prominent Democrats who voted for the resolution as well: Chuck Schumer Joe Biden Hilary Clinton John Kerry Harry Reid The fact is, BOTH parties are to blame for Iraq. Too bad most Liberals just like to point the finger at Bush and his administration, when in fact there were plenty of Democrats to blame as well. Pretty sure you're not going to boycott any company if one of the democrats listed above lands on a board somewhere are you?
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- jgreen10 13y agoYou seem to have forgotten that the Bush administration knowingly lied about the intentions and capabilities of Saddam Hussein in order to gain support for the war.
- factchecker32 13y agoFactCheck.org: Bush's "16 Words" on Iraq & Uranium: He May Have Been Wrong But He Wasn't Lying Two intelligence investigations show Bush had plenty of reason to believe what he said in his 2003 State of the Union Address. http://archive.is/vAWQa#selection-283.0-300.0 http://archive.is/vAWQa#selection-283.0-300.0 Don't let facts get in your way though.
- warrenm 13y agoDo you name-drop that Al Gore is on the board of Apple in every conversation involving them?
- gress 13y agoWhich war-crimes did he commit?
- podperson 13y agoWhat's odd to me is the choice of Condi Rice. Even assuming that she was relatively blameless compared to (say) Cheney, what the heck do they think they gain by appointing a polarizing political figure to their board?