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This website has a lot of unclosed h3 tags
- rileyjshaw 13y ago8000px at the bottom of the page.
- Orangeair 13y agoDear God, the entire source is on one line. There aren't even spaces between tags. From looking around the website a bit, this doesn't appear to be a joke, so I'm seriously wondering how this could happen without anyone noticing.
- paullew 13y agoThis might explain it: <META name="generator" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
- yeukhon 13y agoYeah, except that the site owner didn't forget to add Facebook page and the page seems quite active. http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/index.html http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/index.html It was created on August 14, 2013. I am just glad small business like this continues to run and use technology. We should send an email and tell them to fix it. I am also glad the site didn't go down after all this traffic...
- tomrod 13y agoAgreed.
- anigbrowl 13y agoWe should send an email and tell them to fix it. If you do that I will come to your house and hit your computer with a hammer until it breaks into tiny tiny pieces.
- LaGrange 13y agoIt’s not the first time this comes up in a popular internet discussion, the website is pretty famous. I suspect they know about the issue.
- statictype 13y agoI'm actually surprised. So many unclosed h3 tags would seem to indicate it was a programming error and that the page was generated by some script rather than a visual editor.
- chris_wot 13y agoI haven't laughed this long for ages!
- JacobAldridge 13y agoYes - it had me in stiches.
- anigbrowl 13y agoಠ_ರೃ
- zimpenfish 13y ago[snaffled for future use]
- madiator 13y agoHilarious! Initially I was thinking "poor fellow who made this mistake" and eventually I felt like I got trolled, this almost feels like its not a mistake! PS: There are 38 <h3>s and 2 </h3>s.
- nanch 13y agoReference since we seem to have broken it: http://web.archive.org/web/20130723081436/http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20130723081436/http://www.sewinga...
- egwynn 13y agoMatt Gemmell described it pretty well: https://twitter.com/mattgemmell/status/301735038733676546 https://twitter.com/mattgemmell/status/301735038733676546
- chilldream 13y agoWhat the...that tweet is over a year old!
- notastartup 13y agothis page would be tough to scrape with an xpath to get to "Dull Needles" text node. /html/body/center[3]/a[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/font/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[2]/h3/font/font[1]/text()
- garethadams 13y ago//text()[contains(.,'Dull needles')]
- glifchits 13y agoThis is an example of a page that begins talking about sewing and embroidery, and eventually becomes about typography.
- aaren 13y agoI felt like I was watching a visual in an art gallery commenting on the human condition. If you Ctrl+- out all the way and linger on some of the choice phrases you get a better show.
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- jtchang 13y agoThat page loaded ridiculously fast. Maybe flat HTML is the way to go.
- rachellaw 13y agoyeah, reminds me of this other website: http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ should we be hard-coding our styles into html and stop making stylesheets though? seems like a balance is needed
- bilalq 13y agoWell, hard-coded styles don't get cached by browsers, so that's probably not the best example. That being said, there are a lot of things people can do to improve performance that they neglect to. Sometimes it's just the pressure to get things done. Still, it's worth going back to revisit these issues. I saw this on Twitter earlier today, and I found it to be a fairly interesting read on the topic: http://yeoman.io/blog/performance-optimization.html http://yeoman.io/blog/performance-optimization.html
- lightblade 13y agoHard coded style inside hardcoded markup does get cached though (as part of the html)
- theGimp 13y agoHTML is typically not cached by the browser.
- reverius42 13y agoCitation needed. I've seen evidence to the contrary. Generally anything with cache-control (or equivalent) headers suggesting that it should be cached, will be.
- peterkelly 13y ago
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- spullara 13y agoLooks like modern browsers aren't rendering the page correctly.
- andrewliebchen 13y agoI thought it was a result of nested <font> tags with font-size defined by em units. Since the each <font> tag is 1.75 times larger that it's parent.
- vsviridov 13y agoIf you create a stylesheet through dev console and change h3 font-size it's funny to see how it gets re-rendered in slow-mo :D
- thomasfoster96 13y agoIt also uses <center> tags. But I'm not here to judge, obviously.
- buzzkills 13y agoso does hacker news ;)
- cmbaus 13y agoI just did an 'Inspect Element' on HN. That's some state of the art 1999 web design there.
- gamegoblin 13y agoYyyyyep HN is formatted almost entirely by tables... But it does look good!
- oneeyedpigeon 13y agoNot on mobile, mind.
- iSnow 13y agoNo, it looks like something from 1999. And it completely sucks on mobile. Actually, it is a disgrace.
- eob 13y agoThis is almost as wonderful as Subway's old website. I think that one had something like five HTML tags and a few BODY tags sprinkled randomly throughout.
- alkonaut 13y agoI'd like to have a word with the person who decided that "something" should show up in a browser regardless of how broken the markup is.
- dagw 13y agoI think unfortunately that Jon Postel died a few year ago.
- peterkelly 13y agoWriting a HTML parser to handle everything that's out there on the web is almost as hard as writing a C compiler that tries to produce the "most accurate" executable code based on what it looks like you probably meant.
- softbuilder 13y agoWe've all had a laugh but I hope whoever found this is helping them correct the problem.
- eclipxe 13y agoGreat viral marketing!
- hayksaakian 13y agoThis website handled HN traffic like it was nothing, i'm taking notes
- ronyeh 13y agoIt's a new technology called "static HTML page"... I hear MS FrontPage can export this newfangled format.
- gamegoblin 13y agoAt my uni there were a large number of profs with websites that, if you viewed the source, showed that they'd been creating in MS Word. This was a CS department. Slightly depressing.
- Argorak 13y agoI worked a bit in research and HTML was generally treated as a serialization format for other tools and HTTP was considered a dumb transport. I had a presentation about REST&Caching and stepped through many of the low-level behaviours of HTTP, like the properties that verbs have and their interaction with caching. I ended up explaining the whole HTTP verb thing for multiple days straight because it was kind of a revelation to many. Now, the research department worked in a whole different department, web was only coming up as a topic for them and was of tangential interest. My conclusion: CS is a vast field. Don't expect experts in theoretical CS to know practical details. Don' expect practitioners in compiler building to know how to build a website or anything about distributed architectures. It's not depressing, it just shows how vast our field is.
- roel_v 13y agoYes, because if you design a new alloy for improved performance of an f1 engine cilinder, you need to do your own oil changes too, right?
- dwightgunning 13y agoTrue. However this is more akin to having your dietician change your oil.
- ageyfman 13y agoeven my non-programmer wife found this page to be hilarious
- rajeemcariazo 13y agomakes me understand more how h3 tag works
- state 13y agoIt's perfect.
- cauliturtle 13y ago> If a problem persists, we recommend that you contact > Sewing and Embroidery Warehouse finally
- angelortega 13y agoIt's hipnotic. I absolutely love it.
- quahaug 13y agoEvery single troubleshooting tip is of greater urgency than the last!
- einhverfr 13y agoNah, they are just mimicking the frustration of the users when the troubleshooting is not having the desired effect.
- lupin_sansei 13y agoIt actually renders fine without increasing the font sizes in IE 8. The creator maybe only tested it in IE? See TIFF export here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1388427/__www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com_embtrb.rar https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1388427/__www.sewingande...
- oneeyedpigeon 13y agoSounds like ie default header font size is absolute whilst other browsers go with relative. Each approach has benefits, but support for highly nested headers is pretty low on the list :-)
- bananas 13y agoI think half the people here haven't seen the ultimate crime: http://fabricland.co.uk/ http://fabricland.co.uk/ The service in the shop is just as bad as the web site as well!
- chrisfarms 13y agoAt least in ties in with the brand. The website actually reminds me of the inside of the shop :)
- btgeekboy 13y agoThat just reeks of FrontPage.
- cinitriqs 13y agoMicrosoft FrontPage 5.0 to be exact, lol
- cmbaus 13y agoI think there is a trend in UK web design: http://www.lingscars.com/ http://www.lingscars.com/
- glazskunrukitis 13y agoThis is actually brilliant... and funny. I stayed on the website and browsed it for the last 15 minutes.
- ishi 13y agoMy Eyes! The goggles do nothing!
- Pitarou 13y agoYou say that like it's a bad thing. Ling is awesome.
- phpnode 13y ago
- ironash 13y agoRenders perfectly in IE8.
- brokenparser 13y agoRenders perfectly in IE4, too.
- grahamel 13y agoSeems like it's IE being a bit loose with the spec (the doctype is html 3.2 after all) or just catering for the likely hood of a rule for one element being used for another. For headings, on http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html32#headings http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html32#headings it says "You always need the start and end tags" but for block elements underneath it says that: <P>This is the first paragraph. <P>This is the second paragraph. is perfectly valid - presumably why it's fine in IE8
- shangxiao 13y agoOh god the h3manity
- tomrod 13y agoIt's hauntingly beautiful.
- hoprocker 13y agoI think I felt my pulse quicken as I started to scroll. edit: Actually, it has a bunch of unclosed h3 and h2 tags.
- mcnemesis 13y agoThat's exactly what I felt too. It's like the progressive increase in font-size (a visual "stimuli") does the trick - it made my heart pace! Wow!
- einhverfr 13y agoThere's a subtle brilliance here. The font starts out reasonably small and increases in parallel with the frustration of the individual doing the troubleshooting.
- ForFreedom 13y agoThank you for the link... I just got my eye checked for sight and its fine.
- hk__2 13y agoUnclosed h3 tags are valid HTML.
- oneeyedpigeon 13y agoThis page is possibly the best argument for XHTML I've ever seen.
- NicoJuicy 13y agoThis made me realize how h3 and em works... Awesome (didn't expect that from a site like this :P)
- hipsters_unite 13y agoWow, that's almost a work of art.
- izolate 13y agoIn college, one of my professor's syllabus page had this exact problem. It wasn't so bad at first, but half way through the course you had to scroll so far down the page that the syllabus was barely legible. So I downloaded the page, cleaned the markup and sent him the refactored HTML page, much to his delight.
- cinitriqs 13y agoAnyone actually using frontpage... or dreamweaver visual editor... just saying... You can say: "gotta start somewhere" but... make that "somewhere" be "notepad" ... please... thank u...
- pimpl 13y agoThis is an art.
- MattBearman 13y agoThat's actually beautiful, I'd never considered this as a possible outcome of nesting tags with em font sizes. By the bottom of the page one letter was about 3000px high.
- achairapart 13y agoWhat do you expect from a website that starts with SEW SEW SEW SEW SEW SEW?
- cellover 13y agoI like how elements are nested for an even more optimal web experience! http://imgur.com/1LgIPjl http://imgur.com/1LgIPjl
- mcherm 13y agoRight at the very top of the page, they explain that. in case of "Thread Breakage" you should "try re-threading the machine", and also "make sure the thread goes through all guides". It appears that their web designer has taken this advice to heart.
- Intermernet 13y agoI don't know why, but I liked this... It sort of reminded me of some of Monty Python's publications. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brand_New_Monty_Python_Bok http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brand_New_Monty_Python_Bok
- devinmontgomery 13y agoThis feels like a mashup between "If the moon were only one pixel" and Spritz.
- dreamer305 13y agoYou.win
- lucasnemeth 13y agoSuperb, a work of art.
- GnarfGnarf 13y agoFor the ultimate (and entertaining) list of bad Websites, check out: http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ A veritable "How not to" of design.
- esdailycom 13y agoLooks like a neat linkbait. Unlikely the owner never noticed this..