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It would be awesome if one of these awesome CSS posts would actually test for the features instead of just saying..."IE? SAD TROMBONE FOR YOU!!!!"

aram 13y ago
Such experiments push the limits - I believe their point is not to make something that works everywhere, at least from the start.
stefan_kendall 13y ago
IE is a cancer. If you can in any way justify cutting off support for IE, you do it. It's a real time and money sink.
- underwater 13y ago
  That's a ridiculous statement. Have you even used recent versions of IE?
  - pbhjpbhj 13y ago
    I've been away from professional web-dev for a while (kids!). My only real experience of IE10 is that I just handled an "IE10 on Win8 only" bug on a friends site so tested with IE10 and IE11 in a virtualised environment. I only have XP installs left of MS Windows. Of course now that IE is supposed to work they won't let you use the conditional comment targeting method so I must - it seems - break it for IE11 by instructing all IE above 9 to fallback to IE9 compatibility mode. Nothing else seems to fail with it and applying the hack (IE9 compat mode in a meta-tag) is problematic too. Has IE changed that much? That said the site is an application generated mess, it's painful. So maybe IE have really come around.
    - grrowl 13y ago
      Modern IE is nice to use and has reasonable support. It will cost you as much (in dev time) to support as any other browser (or specifically, rendering engine), and its market share is comparable to Firefox. The problem is old IE. fuck old IE and every bit of its ridiculous, antiquated and outdated self.
frik 13y ago
As an IE 11 user I was disappointed too. Sadly, IE 11 still doesn't support the "preserve-3d" property. http://caniuse.com/#feat=transforms3d http://caniuse.com/#feat=transforms3d http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19483742/does-ie11-support-css-3d-transforms-fully-preserve-3d http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19483742/does-ie11-suppor...
dmotz 13y ago
Author here. OriDomi actually does granular feature tests and has no awareness of what particular browser you're using. While the recent versions of IE do support CSS 3D transforms to a degree, they omit support for the "preserve-3d" transform style which allows the transformations of parent elements to affect their children. Without it, the visual tricks OriDomi does don't work, so the library will disable itself if it finds the client lacks support. Whenever IE begins to support "preserve-3d", OriDomi should start working without modification.
- blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
  Wow. Thanks for responding. You rock.

aram 13y ago

Such experiments push the limits - I believe their point is not to make something that works everywhere, at least from the start.

stefan_kendall 13y ago

IE is a cancer. If you can in any way justify cutting off support for IE, you do it. It's a real time and money sink.

underwater 13y ago
That's a ridiculous statement. Have you even used recent versions of IE?
- pbhjpbhj 13y ago
  I've been away from professional web-dev for a while (kids!). My only real experience of IE10 is that I just handled an "IE10 on Win8 only" bug on a friends site so tested with IE10 and IE11 in a virtualised environment. I only have XP installs left of MS Windows. Of course now that IE is supposed to work they won't let you use the conditional comment targeting method so I must - it seems - break it for IE11 by instructing all IE above 9 to fallback to IE9 compatibility mode. Nothing else seems to fail with it and applying the hack (IE9 compat mode in a meta-tag) is problematic too. Has IE changed that much? That said the site is an application generated mess, it's painful. So maybe IE have really come around.
  - grrowl 13y ago
    Modern IE is nice to use and has reasonable support. It will cost you as much (in dev time) to support as any other browser (or specifically, rendering engine), and its market share is comparable to Firefox. The problem is old IE. fuck old IE and every bit of its ridiculous, antiquated and outdated self.

frik 13y ago

As an IE 11 user I was disappointed too. Sadly, IE 11 still doesn't support the "preserve-3d" property. http://caniuse.com/#feat=transforms3d http://caniuse.com/#feat=transforms3d http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19483742/does-ie11-support-css-3d-transforms-fully-preserve-3d http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19483742/does-ie11-suppor...

dmotz 13y ago

Author here. OriDomi actually does granular feature tests and has no awareness of what particular browser you're using. While the recent versions of IE do support CSS 3D transforms to a degree, they omit support for the "preserve-3d" transform style which allows the transformations of parent elements to affect their children. Without it, the visual tricks OriDomi does don't work, so the library will disable itself if it finds the client lacks support. Whenever IE begins to support "preserve-3d", OriDomi should start working without modification.

blahbl4hblahtoo 13y ago
Wow. Thanks for responding. You rock.