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How do you feel about having Google as a direct competitor?
by anarchy8 13y ago
How do you feel about having Google as a direct competitor?
- atburrow 13y agoMaybe an acquisition is in their near future.
- tumultco 13y agoGoogle itself doesn't scare me; it is really just team vs. team. I think we've got the best product and engineering expertise for this market. Clearly I'm biased :) so I'd encourage anyone to try Tumult Hype and let us know your thoughts (we've got a fully functional 14-day trial on the site). While Google hasn't announced pricing, it is probably safe to say it is going to be free. This is a business for us, so we charge $29.99. I don't like competing against free, but that just means we'll be continually pushed to provide that much more value!
- svtiger 13y agoKeep up the good work! From first glance your product seems to have superior functionality and usability. So I'd gladly pay for ease of use alone.
- edraferi 13y agoGreat attitude. Best of luck!
- beernutz 13y agoI would love to check out your product, but it only runs on OSX. You might consider a port to drastically expand your potential client base. Google's free offering is cross platform already.
- alanh 13y ago“Drastically?” The vast majority of the web developers I know use OS X. And, I guess, most of the marketers, too.
- lostsock 13y agoWow really? Where (in what bubble) do you live?
- taftster 13y agoI'm guessing the bubble called Silicon Valley. They tend to have a fairly skewed view of the world there.
- sneak 13y agoThe one where the vast majority of web developers live.
- debaserab2 13y ago> the vast majority You're actually discounting the entire world outside of SV right now?
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- kamjam 13y agoThere's this entire platform of users who develop in a magical language called C# and run entirely on Microsoft platform. It might just catch on and get quite popular. The Microsoft world might also be used by large corporations, who also happen to have lots of money, with which you can buy things like software. (There's also these other platforms based on *nix, but meh :-p)
- shrikant 13y agoIt doesn't say anything about Linux, but I guess more than one platform is technically "cross platform" :(
- bromagosa 13y agoYep, and I hate it when they use "PC" as a synonym for Microsoft Windows. I do have a PC!
- ekianjo 13y agoYeah, and a Mac is a PC, internally speaking too. So, it should OS based : OSX, Windows. This, coming from the number 1 tech company in the world. Kinda disappointing.
- cdcarter 13y agoYet somehow everyone understands what people mean when they say "Mac or PC"... Prescriptivists.
- bromagosa 13y agoThis has nothing to do with prescriptivism whatsoever. This is like calling the blue "e" icon in your desktop "The Internet". It's just plain wrong naming. In tech, things should be called by their name, or you risk future confusion.
- V-2 13y agoIt's Apple that made PC synonymous with Windows machines (with all their "Mac vs PC" ads). Yes technically speaking it's incorrect, but that's human language for you, it just happens. Sometimes the other way round, eg. walkman was once Sony's tradename, but eventually all portable cassette players were called so.
- bromagosa 13y agoNot really, it actually comes from long before that. I remember being a very little kid and buying shareware games with their "PC-Compatible" labels. At the time, that sticker actually meant "DOS Compatible", and being I just about 10 years old, I believed PCs and DOS were the only possible match, the same way my first MSX ran MSX-Basic and my cousin's Amstrad CPC ran CP/M. I didn't know it was even possible for machines to run different OSes. For that matter, I didn't even know what an OS was. I just knew different machines worked differently, the same way different TV sets worked differently. So it's not just a matter of human language, it's a matter of intentionally confusing terms in favour of the market. Everybody knew there were other "walkmans" around. Not everybody knows there are other OSes.
- D9u 13y agoToo bad those platforms don't include Linux & FreeBSD.
- ekianjo 13y agoSadly Google has more or less stopped supporting Linux on desktop since Larry Page came into office (Picasa and others...). Hardly surprising. Even though at Google everyone uses a flavor of Ubuntu for their desktops.
- ekianjo 13y agoCross platform but not Linux. That's "limited" when you do web development.
- michaelhoney 13y agoI don't think tumultco would see ROI porting to Windows or Linux. Quite apart from the actual development effort, managing two or more codebases, dealing with Windows fragmentation and piracy... ugh. Yes, you'd drastically expand your potential client base – but end up with worse revenue and higher support costs per customer.
- dagge 13y agoAs long as we're doing shameless plugs: checkout my cross-platform product at http://tweenui.com/animator http://tweenui.com/animator – it's for creating simple HTML5 animations (focus is mobile display ads) in the browser. You can download the result or publish to the cloud.
- alexcroox 13y agoYou might consider hosting that intro video on a better platform, buffered so slowly for me with a 120MB connection. Granted your site is probably getting hit by HN, but when attention spans are so short, many may give up long before I did.
- tumultco 13y agoThanks for reporting this; our site should be able to handle this amount of traffic no problem and the video loads pretty quickly for me. Where are you located and does the problem still happen? We've moved nearly all of our other videos to youtube, so if it really is our server you can click the "watch more" buttons on the main page to still get a feel for the app.
- zach_s 13y agoIt may be tough, but porting your application to Windows would be a great idea and help you compete against Google in the long run. Good luck with it, and from what I've checked around on your website it seems like a great tool/competitor to Google! (I'm on a Mac, still I have Windows machines and know a huge amount of web-developers who abide by Windows)
- ekanes 13y agoLove your attitude. If you can position yourself as the best alternative to Google's product it's not a bad place to be - they may expand the market. Good luck.
- coverband 13y ago"it is really just team vs. team" -- that's a great way of looking at it. Good luck with the additional attention and hope you can convert new eyes into more customers.
- benologist 13y agoThey're the perfect competitor - they validate the market, they almost always fail, and they acquire winners.
- robgough 13y agoAnd of course they'll pull the plug in 18 months or so thus leaving people wanting for a replacement :P