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Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?
- plg 13y agoI wonder at what point the ads appear to have come from one of your legitimate contacts. PS isn't faceboob already doing this?
- martin-adams 13y agoYes, I saw this, but seems to be limited to the Promotions filtered tab which, well, an advert next to an advert. I'm kind of okay with that. But it does make you wonder if this is the start of a slippery slope.
- andybak 13y agoSome would argue it's the second step on a slippery slope (yay for mixed metaphors!) - the first step being ads in an email client. At least the rate of descent is so far moderately glacial.
- psbp 13y agoAds in an email client that is explicitly supported by ads? The horror.
- asfasfafwF 13y agoI think this is a slippery slope. They are essentially unsolicited mail that you never asked for. Some people will genuinely use the promotions tab to receive email from companies for which they have requested promotions be sent to them. Google is getting a free ride without permission.
- derefr 13y agoIt sort of makes sense to me that Google, in exchange for giving me a free email account, would email ads to my free email account. Microsoft always has; I can't tell you how many times I saw "Hotmail (1)" on my MSN screen and clicked through only to find it was some ad for some Microsoft thing or another. At least with Google's version, it's very, very clear that these are ads; they don't even make your inbox get a (1) next to it or anything.
- thezilch 13y agoA free ride, running one of the largest and best-of-breed, free software-infrastructures.
- lostlogin 13y agoThe gmail I have now is a shadow of what it was when I was invited in more than a decade ago. I so rarely login (it's a backup dumping ground now) that I can't find what I want, it's non-intuitive, things aren't where they used to be and I can't stand it. I might just be getting old though...
- markdown 13y ago> I can't find what I want, it's non-intuitive, things aren't where they used to be and I can't stand it. I might just be getting old though... Definitely getting old. You sound exactly like every old person (3 of them) who i've moved from Outlook to Gmail.
- josteink 13y agoIf you joined Gmail when it was new and on an invite-only basis, you'd know just how much worse things has gotten. Back then Gmail was better than everything else. Now it's an abomination which makes me want to jump ship.
- jabbernotty 13y agoI've come to Gmail with an invite too, and I fully agree with you. But I don't know yet where I would jump to. I would prefer it to be a European company.
- markdown 13y agoAre you kidding? Maybe it's grown beautiful in your memory since you last saw it. 2004 gmail is fugly. FYI, everyone was upset when it changed. That's normal human behaviour. Nobody likes change. But since then, I've learnt where the "hidden" features are, and am lovin' it. BTW, the new Hotmail (Outlook.com) is pretty awesome too. Even better than gmail IMO.
- tokenizerrr 13y agoWhat makes you feel like they need any kind of permission? It's their product and they can damn well structure it how they want to. You may not like it, and if you don't I strongly urge you to stop using their products.
- Colliwinks 13y agoExactly: "Promotions" is not "Spam". There is already a spam folder, so these should go straight in there, if anywhere. How does this fit in with the CAN-SPAM act? "Unsubscribe compliance A visible and operable unsubscribe mechanism is present in all emails. Consumer opt-out requests are honored within 10 days. Opt-out lists also known as Suppression lists are only used for compliance purposes. " If there is no unsubscribe option, are google in violation? (Their get-out may be that these are not actual emails, but by making the transition from clear ad space to inbox, most people would argue that the delivery mechanism is irrelevant)
- Tyrannosaurs 13y agoThey're adverts presented in the same place you see your e-mails but as they haven't been sent the the way an e-mail is, they won't have used any e-mail protocol, you won't be able to reply to them as e-mails and so on so they aren't e-mails so won't be covered by this.
- smegel 13y agoSort of makes sense...otherwise goggle is basically providing a space for others to advertise to you inside their application, which makes little business sense.
- makomk 13y agoNo. Otherwise Google is providing a space for you to receive ads from others, which makes the same kind of business sense that offering an e-mail service in the first place does.
- workbench 13y agoOf course it is, look at YouTube it's practically unwatchable now without ad blockers. Ads in your search results, ads to the left of your video, ads before the video, ads during the video
- adamnemecek 13y agoIf this becomes a thing, I might actually switch to something else.
- sitharus 13y agoI've been actively looking for alternatives recently after all their "improvements" kept breaking my flow. Unfortunately there isn't much out there :/
- pjmlp 13y agoI have been using my own email server since 2000. For me, Gmail is only an email aggregator for my multiple email accounts. At home I keep on using a trusty desktop IMAP client.
- da_n 13y agoHave you tried Fastmail?
- minikites 13y agoFastmail is pretty great.
- mbesto 13y agoI've just noticed the praise recently for this. Two dealbreakers for me: - No push on iPhone (as far as I can see) - No Calendar integration
- minikites 13y agoYeah, Apple doesn't support IMAP-IDLE which is a drag, so push is out. And you're right, there's no calendar. I also hear LDAP is read-only on devices, so you can't add to your Fastmail address book from your iPhone. I personally don't use any of those things anyway but I can definitely understand why that would be a dealbreaker for a lot of people. It's great for email and the webmail interface got way better recently. Their blog is also pretty neat, they go into a fair bit of technical detail about new features and how they solved certain bugs: http://blog.fastmail.fm/2012/11/26/inter-tab-communication-using-local-storage/ http://blog.fastmail.fm/2012/11/26/inter-tab-communication-u...
- AndrewDucker 13y agoI'd love for Google to work out how much money they make from me in a year, and then to offer to go ad-free for 50% more than that. At least then I could make an informed decision.
- Tyrannosaurs 13y agoIf the internet has taught us anything (other than that there are many people with way too much free time) it's that a vast majority of people would rather not pay for stuff and as a result the number of people willing to pay will be so small that it's not really worth their while. Outlook.com does have this option for $20 a year - would be interesting to know what the uptake is.
- igul222 13y agoThe problem is if Google were to do that, the value of their ads would plummet since the kind of people who would pay to opt out of ads are the same people who would be most likely to pay for things in ads. Not 100% sure but I think this is is the same reason TV companies don't want to offer their content for streaming online, and Hulu can't remove ads for its premium users.
- davidw 13y agoMaybe. I sometimes don't even notice there are ads there because I ignore them so completely. I think you'd have to study the matter further.
- bulatb 13y agoWhy are people who hate ads more likely to be influenced by them?
- derefr 13y agoPeople who can't tune out ads are most likely to be both influenced by, and aggravated by, them. People with "banner blindness" might not complain about your ad, but they're not worth a penny to the advertisers.
- thejosh 13y agoWho would have that that a major change would be used to provide advertisements from the biggest online advertising company?
- NirDremer 13y agoI've tried outlook.com and it was OK. I wonder if this can help make hotmail relevant again.
- lostlogin 13y agoI like some elements of iCloud for email, however its lack of settings (want to have your outgoing mail appear to come from john@doe.com? Tough) and terrible terrible search are a bit of deal breaker. How is the search so bad? I usually resort to just scrolling back through emails rather than use it.
- Aqua_Geek 13y agoSeriously. I usually end up grabbing my iPhone and doing a search there instead of via the web interface. So, so bad.
- josteink 13y ago> I've tried outlook.com and it was OK. I wonder if this can help make hotmail relevant again. Not without IMAP it can't. I can't believe Microsoft is dragging their feet on this.
- Tyrannosaurs 13y agoSo to all intents and purposes this is targeted, Google endorsed spam delivered directly to my inbox? If that's the case then it could be time to start looking for a replacement for the last Google product I use.
- icebraining 13y agoIt's in the "Promotions" tab, not the primary inbox. Personally, I think there are better reasons to leave Gmail (which is why I did so years ago).
- Tyrannosaurs 13y agoSo if I've got rid of that (generally I have fewer than half a dozen e-mails in my inbox so tabs were pretty pointless for me) where do they appear? My assumption was in the regular inbox.
- icebraining 13y agoThose are clearly "special" emails, so I don't think it can be safely assumed they would be processed the same way as normal emails - it would have to be tested. Personally, I think Google added the Promotions tab exactly because they knew they would get a major backlash against putting ads in the normal inbox.
- amirmc 13y agoInteresting. That could mean that this is a stop-gap before ads appear in the main inbox for users who don't use tabs. I expect that would take years though as people would need to be conditioned to the current system first. In any case it feels like a slightly underhanded way to 'subscribe' you to 'mail' you didn't ask for. I use Gmail over IMAP so no of the web UI stuff they've done has affected me at all (in aggregate, I feel that's worked in my favour).
- Shooti 13y agoThey'd appear above the inbox just like they always did. The new promotion tab ads are essentially a new presentation style of what was always there.
- kaeluka 13y agook, now I'm officially on the market for alternatives. Maybe I should go back to good old mutt..
- fuzzix 13y agofetchmail/getmail your gmail, read with mutt, send with msmtp.
- pjmlp 13y agoPine! :)
- raverbashing 13y agoAlpine ;)
- OoTheNigerian 13y agoSo this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.
- lloeki 13y ago> they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? As long as it stays in "promotions" tab, I could care less, as this is where they belong. If that's the case that's actually a smart move to introduce in-maillist ads without polluting the "real" inbox. As soon as they flow out of that bucket, we're entering Twitter's dickbar levels of dorkiness.
- ry0ohki 13y agoI still have to keep all of my inboxes at zero. Every inbox must still be checked in case there is something mis-directed. I go out of my way to unsubscribe from most promotions, so no, even in the promotions box this is not welcome for me.
- imgabe 13y agoYou can disable all the tabs and return to your normal inbox.
- nvr219 13y agoFor now.
- baddox 13y agoWhich is where we currently live, so that's good.
- chimeracoder 13y ago
- tnkd 13y agoRegistered specifically to post this. Today seems to be an interesting day on HN. First, Google's ad revenue's are down ~5%, every jumps up and down saying the end is near and they need to shape up before they fade into irrelevance. Now a hint of a forthcoming feature where they are doing just that, making a change to increase revenue and people lose their minds. Lets think about this. The feature is under Promotions, a section already laden with junk for most people. Are we all saying that John from "matresses online" can send me news about this weeks greatest sleep position and special offers like 5% off pillow fluffing, but Google couldn't input it's own ad, which would likely be tailored to your interests in any case? If you signup to promotions for numerous sources (enough to warrant the promotions tab) you might appreciate the ad, no? If you don't, well you'll never be in the Promoted tab in most cases anyway, so it likely wont affect you all that much (assuming they wouldn't inject ad's into main inbox stream).
- tnkd 13y agoSide note, for reference I'm a Google apps user with ads disabled for my domain, who doesn't use this new inbox style, so I'd assume the ads wouldn't display for me in any case.
- scholia 13y ago> The feature is under Promotions, a section already laden with junk for most people In my case, as a journalist, it includes a huge amount of useful email. Either way, I'd have to check it often, because Gmail's sorting into categories is abysmal. (For the same reason I have to check the spam folder multiple times a day. It contains a high proportion of legitimate email.) However, it's a moot point because I turned the tabs off within a day.
- aestra 13y ago>The feature is under Promotions, a section already laden with junk for most people. I don't know... I don't know how Google decides mail goes into the Promotions tab, but I have no junk in there. The things that went into my Promotions tab were: -My auto insurance policy -A notice from my vet saying my cats were due for vaccinations. -Some (but not all) emails from my college's Alumni association (which probably would be considered promotional) -Emails telling me my phone bill was due. -Email confirming a car rental. -Emails telling me that my auto loan payment was due. -Email from Walgreens telling me that I have a prescription that was due for refill, and to reply to that email to automatically refill that prescription. -Some emails that sites send after you create an account with them. All these are important for me, but I wouldn't consider any of them promotional material. I don't sign up for promotions. I went and disabled these silly tabs...
- dendory 13y agoEmail used to be fun, then spammers came, then good email providers added spam filters and made email fun again, now email providers are sending us spam. The circle is almost complete.
- agilebyte 13y agoI, on the other hand, am happy. It is the same thing as the NSA working as my email backup provider. Changes like these give growth to new/alternative businesses.
- rabino 13y ago>Changes like these give growth to new/alternative businesses. I totally dig this perspective. From now on, my opinion is that Google makes this changes to promote entrepreneurship. Love it.
- buro9 13y ago> NSA working as my email backup provider Backups are only useful if you are able to restore from them.
- agilebyte 13y agoYou know you just gave me an idea. The government asks you to store data with them so they do not have to go behind your back to get it and in exchange you get a backup with them that you can restore from.
- pseut 13y agoTo be honest, I've thought of Google for the last few years as what the NSA would become if it were were privatized and publicly listed. PRISMail might even be ad free! edit: clarity
- officemonkey 13y agoFOIA!
- toble 13y agoWouldn't it be anti-competitive to block spam, yet let your own spam through? The ads in that screenshot look like they are effectively imitating spam.
- Joeboy 13y agoThere needs to be a docker.io image with a (mostly) preconfigured mailserver, roundcube and PGP. Maybe it exists already? If not I might make one.
- Nux 13y agoGiven that this is avoidable by using any POP or IMAP client, I wonder how soon they'll close them down. I'm pretty sure it's a matter of "when".
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- rquirk 13y agoThe basic HTML interface doesn't show this either, or at least I don't have this tab and that's what I use. Nor does the really basic old mobile interface (which works great from the terminal with w3m) -- this one https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=mobile https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=mobile You're right of course, all of these will probably disappear soon :(
- zmmmmm 13y agoI think it's a good benchmark of their real intentions whether they interfere with those at all. At the moment, because any user can bail out to an IMAP or POP client, including 3rd party web services that behave as those, there is a natural limit to how obnoxious Google can be. If they degrade their native web inbox sufficiently, people will switch to alternatives in droves (I already have long ago).
- Nux 13y agoIndeed, we'll know their real intentions once they interfere with those services, however a bad precedent has already been created: their jabber/xmpp service. Anyone with Android phones, what's the default way to check your emails, IMAP? If yes, then there is still some hope. :-)
- decryptthis_NSA 13y agoWhat's next, Android not turning on unless you click an ad? Google has jumped the shark.
- supercoder 13y agoI wonder, will this be how they start to push ads into IMAP clients ?
- dalore 13y agoI'm going to play devil's advocate for a little bit and say that the email-like-ads are in your promotions tab. A tab that is meant for ads. I turned off the tabs and I don't get the email ads.
- nikbackm 13y agoNo problem for me, I just turned the feature off. But maybe it will become mandatory in due time?
- wjk 13y agoThe tabs are nice and all. But is there a way to have both the tabs and a button so i can see all emails at once in 1 tab? Been clicking around with no success.
- scholia 13y agoSame here. I can't see any way to see all mail either, apart from turning off the tabs. Which I did. The tabs were pretty much useless anyway, because the sorting is so bad. I have one important category of mail that's already tagged with a label, and Gmail had examples under three different tabs. That's so incompetent it's almost malign.
- mortehu 13y agoCreate a quick label for the search "+label:inbox"?
- 6ren 13y agoCue: If you're not the customer, you're the product. For balance: linux and open source in general.
- tiziano88 13y agoWhat do linux and open source have to do with this at all?
- 6ren 13y agoThey are a counter-example: you are not the customer (you aren't paying for it), but you also are not the product.
- jpadkins 13y agoActually, I think you are the product for free software. Think in terms of non-monetary rewards. Developers get satisfaction and sense of achievement from the number of users using their software. So your usage is actually the 'product'.
- alan_cx 13y agoWhile Im not sure my Karma would withstand a defense of this, if one must have adverts, isn't sliding them in to the email list a better use of screen real estate, compared to big blocks of in your face adverts? Assuming these advmails are clearly marked as such. I dont like it, and I'm not really a gmail user (I have an account as a sort of throw away),but this does seem better than yahoo's big blocks of ads. Although, I do block those. On the other hand, is this not just way that gmail can defeat traditional ad-blocking? Easier to block some nasty flash ad than it is to filter email?
- tjoff 13y agoThey take up more conscious space. You have to parse them more carefully if they are right in the middle of the content that you actually want. Those big blocks of in your face adverts don't require any attention at all and they it's trivial to use your brains inbuilt adblock to filter them out. So, if one must have adverts, the usual form factor is vastly preferred. Especially if the alternative is trying to masquerade spam as legit content.
- workbench 13y agoFeeling pretty smug about never jumping on the gmail bandwagon right now
- psbp 13y agoI'm still feeling pretty good about jumping on.
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- mseebach 13y agoThere have always been ads in GMail, and they have always been clearly marked as ads. These new ads are still clearly marked as ads, and clearly distinct from emails, they are just placed slightly differently in the UI.
- skc 13y agoHorace Dediu's (asymco) graph of Googles rapidly declining margins probably illustrates why Google is now resorting to this sort of thing. http://www.asymco.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Screen-Shot-2013-07-19-at-7-19-8.57.54-AM.png http://www.asymco.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Screen-Shot... And related post. http://www.asymco.com/2013/07/19/whats-an-android-user-worth/ http://www.asymco.com/2013/07/19/whats-an-android-user-worth...
- notintokyo 13y agoAnyone have an idea what is happening to their margins by the way? Who is competing against the same ad dollars as Google (FB seems a bit different), if cost per click is going down, why?
- Bognar 13y agoThe explanation I'd heard was that more people are using mobile devices and ads are less effective there.
- Spooky23 13y agoI think they are like any other big industrial company. They build out factories (datacenters, networks, etc) based on a projection of long-term growth. Once you start missing those growth targets, it's like compounded interest... the impact of a small miss in year 1 has a big impact on the year 5 bottom line. They have a few issues IMO: - The market is saturated... how many more tiny classified ads can you sell? - The "less sophisticated" users who click on ads use Bing -- the Windows default. - There are real competitors out there... Bing, Facebook, etc. - They piss off their hardcore users too much. Google+: enough said.
- badclient 13y agoAlso, because mobile has less space for adword ads.
- awj 13y agoI would guess it's mobile/tablets. I rarely see tasteful advertising geared towards that space, and "regular" pages shown on a mobile phone force me to zoom in on content and scroll past ads.
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- jstalin 13y agoHaving used Adblock (currently Adblock Edge) and Ghostery/Disconnect for so long, I haven't seen ads in ages. It's actually a bit jarring when I use a computer that doesn't have ad blocking enabled... everything suddenly gets so cluttered.
- namwen 13y agoYeah, I've visited websites for years that I felt were very well designed in regards to being open and having a nice amount of whitespace. Seeing the same site on someone else's computer is a bit heartbreaking.
- jes5199 13y agoI tried to switch to Adblock Edge, but it seems to be buggier than Adblock Plus - like, the extension config screen doesn't seem to work
- hafichuk 13y agoSo they kill Reader and "socialize" email. What's next google, and what are you going to do to keep us techies folded in?
- cwdutch 13y agoIsn't this old news? It's very interesting, because on top of the ad placement, the binning of promotions may radically reduce the efficacy of email-based sales. Fab, Groupon, Grand St., etc, are probably not too happy about this.
- markshepard 13y agoI just use the Mail client in my mac. so I dont even see any change so far.
- mtgx 13y agoIf only this meant they're now more likely to implement PGP in Gmail.
- mikegioia 13y agoWeb-based PGP is a bad idea from a security standpoint. Why would you want GMail to handle your PGP encryption, when it's basically known that they hand over email content to the USG? You think your PGP keys would be safe there? If people want to encrypt their web-mail using a web client they might as well just run the email message through a shift cipher because that's about the upper bound on security you can expect.
- moskie 13y agoHate to say "I told you so," but: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5787363 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5787363, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5787398 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5787398
- anon1385 13y agoThat's hilarious. You would think people would stop giving Google the benefit of the doubt when it comes to anything advertising related, but fanboys seem to feel no embarrassment at being proven wrong time and time again. Choice quotes: No. It files all your emails that it classifies as promotional but non-spam. That won't include Google Offers and Zagat if you're not subscribed to Google Offers or Zagat (for me, it's mostly events & careers newsletters). It's just an auto-categoriser (a new UI for smart labels), it doesn't invent new emails that weren't there before. I think you misunderstand what that tab is for. It's not a place for Google advertising; it's a place where promotional emails from any site are automatically sorted into - to keep them separate from other useful email. E.g. a clothing website that sends emails about weekly sales - that'll end up under Promotional. the "Promotions" label is applied to your incoming mail that is best classified as a "Promotion", such as any promotional email from sites you shop at - it's not additional content that Gmail is feeding you.
- moskie 13y agoSwitch back to Priority Inbox while you can! (until, of course, they sunset it.)
- superuser2 13y agoThere is an awful lot of righteous indignation here over Google placing ads where you'll only see them if you're looking for ads.
- akadien 13y agoGmail gets creepier and creepier. I'm not there yet, but I'm close to looking for alternatives.
- Filecloud 13y agoIt is wrong in so many levels. Couple of years back we were talking google may send you an email advertising cremation services based on your email history. It is becoming a reality. The worrying part is upright, honest googlers are supporting it whole heartedly.
- DanielBMarkham 13y agoSo no matter how many times I click on the "spam" button on these things, I'm always going to be getting them. Great.
- netcan 13y agoI'm surprised ads is what gets people up in arms. Google knowitall overlords logging your whole digital and physical life. Media bubble. Emails shared with spooks. Ads are annoying. I get that. This is less annoying than youtube ads. Less annoying than TV ads (even if you can fastforward them). Anyway, annoying is not the same as evil. Gmail is convenient. Ads are annoying. If (annoying > convenient), use something else.
- ing33k 13y agowas getting this since almost a month..
- dm8 13y agoOkay. So this style of advertising is known as "native/integrated advertising". As someone who runs a startup doing the same, I have few things: 1. Google has been doing this for years. It was known as "adwords". It's multi-billion dollars tool that gave birth to SEM. 2. It is limited to promotions tab. Promotions tab is where users go to check their promotional emails. I doubt Gmail will move them to real inbox. In fact, they will be foolish to do so. It's pretty smart move. 3. It is clearly marked as an ad with yellow background. So user is clearly informed about advertisement. It's understandable that users are freaking out a little. But c'mon gmail has been doing ads in their inbox for a while. Email is extremely personal medium and they will be foolish to move ads from promotions tab to inbox tab. Google has lot of smart folks on their teams so we can trust them for the same.
- echohack 13y agoI have a few things too: 1. This new "feature" is basically automated filters. Most folks who've used gmail for years have at least some filters set up. Google didn't say anything about throwing ads in the promotions tab, so this is a little...strange. 2. Slippery slope. How long until this populates the main inbox tab? I bet google could even charge differently depending on which tab you want your ads to show up in. 3. XMPP Federation. Google Reader. Google Wave. How long will it be until Gmail is either axed or full of so many ads that it's unusable? 4. Does Adblock / NoScript block these? Can it? 5. The history of Gmail was that it was a next-generation email service and started as an invite only club. Now, every email provider under the sun gives similar features, and gmail hasn't changed much. Personally I think that this is a good thing, it shows that the service is stable and the ideas were correct. But people at Google might think otherwise and might want to try to "innovate" more. Sooo... ads.
- dm8 13y ago1. I agree, Google must do something to inform users about these auto categorizations 2. I doubt they will populate primary inboxes with ads. They created promotions tab for that so they must've thought about it long and hard. Believe me, when people like me who work in ads businesses think about introducing new ads/formats, we worry about lot of things. Ads are not about making money. Ads are about ensuring users find them useful, brands also demand that. Lastly, even if I run ad related business, I'm an average user too, I have my family who have no clue about how digital advertising works. So whatever decisions I make is important for me, my family and my users given it's implications. 3. Google axed some of the products you mentioned cause they were not sustainable for them. I doubt that will be the case for Gmail. It's most popular web-mail service. 4. No they can't as far as my knowledge goes. But someone might figure out a way to block them. 5. I was part of invite only club in 2004. And I also miss some of the cutting-edge innovations that gmail brought e.g. storage, speed, agility etc. I personally find these auto categorizations to be extremely useful. It has cleaned up my cluttered inbox. And ads are also part of it but their impact is minimal.
- dannyr 13y agoWow. A lot of discussion from a single tweet. Do we have all the information? It's very likely a test. Google does a lot of testing that ultimately is not publicly released.
- dannyr 13y agoSeriously, it's in the PROMOTIONS tab which you can TURN OFF. Why the rage here?
- bbrks 13y agoBecause the ideal use case would be people seeing promotions they want. Not what google thinks they want.
- dokem 13y agoOh no, a company that gives me everything for free is displaying non intrusive ads in the wrong part of the screen and even tells me that they are ads! I'm too entitled for this!
- cenhyperion 13y agoI've been using an email client and slowly migrating to a @mydomain email for personal contacts.
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- tszming 13y agoIt would be more easy for you to switch to other providers if you own your domain - now you know why Google removed the free Google app for custom domain last year...Don't forget the story of XMPP, who know they will not remove pop3/imap access in the future because these standards are not able to catch up the Gmail's upcoming revolutionary features? After all, all these moves are understandable - they now have nearly 50K employees, shareholders have high expectation on the "growth" and they need to invest on projects like glasses, self driving car and maybe mars exploration! Where does the money come from? I would expect Google will receive less criticism if they simply remove the "Don't be evil" from their company motto - then we can say Microsoft/Yahoo! is doing the same thing, why complain?
- dschiptsov 13y agoWell, when users developed a habit of ignoring ads they must push it the other way, like FB did with placing ads in a news feed as stories. The same premise, the same response. Just think of Promotions tab as a new SPAM folder.)
- anuaitt 13y agoI don't understand why people are making a fuss about it. It shows only when you have chosen your inbox to show different categories. Secondly it shows only in promotional email subscriptions. Not disturbing "Primary tab".
- anuaitt 13y agoI don't understand why people are making a fuss about it. It shows only when you have chosen your inbox to show different categories. Secondly it shows only in promotional email subscriptions. Not disturbing "Primary tab".
- leke 13y agoAfter reading this, I really should donate to AdBlockPlus.
- antihero 13y agoIs there a good way to sync contacts to my (Android, but possibly soon FirefoxOS) phone with FastMail?