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2010 Unibody Macbook schematic [pdf]
- klausa 13y agoIt all started with a guy who came to ##apple and asked for help with repairing his computer. Things... escalated quickly from there, mini-Streisand effect and heavy use of banhammer included. http://pastebin.com/8CJLkdwm http://pastebin.com/8CJLkdwm
- tvon 13y agoProbably the worst possible way Branes could have handled what would have been an insignificant incident to most.
- nwh 13y ago#apple on where?
- asiekierka 13y ago##apple, FreeNode. EDIT: +m has been lifted. Nobody is mentioning the issue at the moment.
- deleted 13y ago[deleted]
- acc00 13y agoLooking at the log: thanks for reminding me why I no longer do IRC. All the banhammer dramas, all the time. (This has nothing to do with information leakage or Apple.)
- TheCowboy 13y agoI'm not familiar with this channel in question, but I feel that my experiences on Freenode have been very positive as far as online communities go. Most people are still helpful and civil. Though it's unfortunate that many channels, in general, seem to get corrupted and grow stale when carbon copies of this Brane-type of channel operator become part of the 'ruling party'.
- incision 13y ago>Looking at the log: thanks for reminding me why I no longer do IRC. Precisely my feeling. It's been at least 12 years yet seeing that stereotypical smiley self-importance took me right back.
- welterde 13y agoThere are plenty of channels that have no operator and thus none of that banning, etc. drama (and there are of course +something channels, which cannot have any modes on them or modes on nicks inside the channel and thus always operate on the everyone decides for themselves who is annoying and who isn't principle).
- shrughes 13y agoIt's a Freenode channel, unsurprisingly. Try IRCing elsewhere.
- jarek 13y ago> All the banhammer dramas, all the time. Thank god there's none of that on HN.
- tripzilch 13y agoWe got hellbans. Much cleaner.
- mikeash 13y agoI wonder how hellbanning would work on IRC. Seems like it could be brilliant.
- tripzilch 13y agoA server could easily implement it, there must be some plugins that do exactly that. Disclaimer: I'm pretty much opposed to any type of hellban except in some very specific circumstances (that wouldn't apply to HN).
- mikeash 13y agoJust curious, why do you oppose hellbanning? I find it a rather neat solution, but have little experience with it in general.
- luke_s 13y agoI am opposed to hellbanning on hacker news. I believe it hurts our community for the following reasons: * It lacks transparency - nobody knows who is hellbanned, and why they were hellbanned. There is no appeal. * It is a crude tool - hellbanning somebody fails to take into account that they could reform their behavior, or just have made some bad decisions in the heat of an argument. * There have been cases I have seen where useful or interesting comments have been lost because the poster is hellbanned. This demonstrates that it doesn't just have theoretical flaws - it actually is causing us to lose valuable content.
- joezydeco 13y agoI'm a little confused here. Is this an official Apple-run IRC channel and Branes is an Apple employee?
- mahgnous 13y agoNo, he's just a little troll op that thinks he knows things.
- WinnyDaPoo 13y agoPlenty more bans are being made. To be fair, the topic itself states: Breaking NDA, asking about warez, hackintosh, unsupported VMs or proprietary information = kickban. Obviously this is proprietary information, so it doesn't belong in ##apple.
- asiekierka 13y agoTo be fair, that was only added 15 minutes after the events in the pastebin. I was there for it.
- miles 13y agoThe response (That will be reported to AppleCare Services. Good luck getting help from an authorised Apple service provider, you'll need it.) reminds me of this blast from the past: Berkeley laptop thief is scared out of his wits by professor http://boingboing.net/2005/04/20/berkeley-laptop-thie.html http://boingboing.net/2005/04/20/berkeley-laptop-thie.html
- X-Istence 13y agoThief didn't hand over the laptop ... not sure he was scared out of his wits.
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- ben1040 13y agoInternet Archive version of the transcript, since the link in the article seems to go to a blog that's offline: http://web.archive.org/web/20050424001416/http://blastradius.blogspot.com/2005/04/world-of-pain.html http://web.archive.org/web/20050424001416/http://blastradius...
- mikeash 13y agoI'm severely tempted to join and start trolling these jerks.
- ghshephard 13y agoTell me - is everyone else as nervous as I am clicking on a .pdf from a .ru domain?
- asiekierka 13y agoNo, but the Apple legal team has been informed about it so you're technically downloading illegal content.
- andrewcooke 13y agohow does what the apple legal team know change the legality of the download?
- asiekierka 13y agoYou're aware that the content is illegal as they have confirmed it - otherwise you might have had doubt
- dagw 13y agoI am aware of no such thing. All I know is that some random person on a random forum claims that some lawyer at Apple claims it's illegal. And even if it was 100% illegal to view in the US, that doesn't say anything about the rest of the world.
- FireBeyond 13y agoThe content may have been a civil breach of contract for the originator to disseminate, but you commit no breach nor crime by looking at it, as you have no non-disclosure agreement with Apple.
- drrotmos 13y agoQuite a few of us probably DO have an active NDA with Apple (e.g. from being a Registered Apple Developer). Though IANAL ,from my reading of the terms viewing the materials shouldn't constitute a breach of the NDA either.
- deleted 13y ago[deleted]
- bliker 13y agohow big deal is this? (serious question)
- asiekierka 13y agoApple Legal is just going to C&D them and the leaker.
- sargun 13y agoYou can't stop the signal. But to answer the original question, this really isn't very interesting.
- X-Istence 13y agoNot a big deal at all. Schematics only show how to connect the various bits and pieces. Maybe there is one or two things that were secret before, but anyone with a little time, a scope, a voltage meter and some time could have figured out how most of it connected anyway.
- welterde 13y agoAnd they also show what those bits and pieces are, which is actually quite a big deal, because the components often have non-helpful labels on them (like "Apple" "some internal ID"), which makes it almost impossible to find datasheets on them or source them (say you want to replace a component on the board that you suspect is broken). So not really sure what would have been a big deal if not this..
- renanbirck 13y agoI don't think this is a big deal at all. It's not like you can build a Mac from scratch just by following those schematics. At most they might be useful for someone looking to do reverse engineering.
- chm 13y agoChina.
- hnperson98 13y agoIt's all over the Internet right now.
- pooriaazimi 13y agoWhy is their Apple logo (printed at the bottom of every page) so horrendously ugly? http://d.pr/i/dCoo http://d.pr/i/dCoo
- zdw 13y agoProbably because these were designed to be printed on a plotter, not a conventional printer, and thus line art is the standard.
- NDizzle 13y agoSnitches get stitches.
- NDizzle 13y agoI realized this is getting downvoted because I didn't put it up in the IRC thread, where I originally attempted. An uptight taddle-tale handles something poorly in IRC. Completely textbook.
- snake_plissken 13y agoSo now, I will build a Mac Book pro out of old Pentium IIIs and 128MB DIMMs. I knew those spare parts collecting mouse poop in my parent's garage would come in useful.
- js2 13y agoAnd to think, the Apple ][ shipped with a manual that included schematics for the p/s, keyboard, and motherboard. As a 10 year old geek this manual was gold. ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/documentation/misc/a2_reference_manual_alt.pdf
- yuhong 13y agoSo did the original IBM PC BTW.
- stevedub 13y agoWhat other than repair is this really good for?